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Old 03-25-2012, 11:49 PM
 
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I guess if you don't like it, boycott Comcast, Cablevision, Verizon, Time Warner Cable and whomever joins.
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Old 03-26-2012, 12:03 AM
 
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I guess if you don't like it, boycott Comcast, Cablevision, Verizon, Time Warner Cable and whomever joins.

This the United States of America is it not?

Where one can voice their displeasure on something?

Or has that freedom been taken away by your government too?

With this new policy "One is innocent until proven guilty" has been replaced by the MPAA and RIAA rule of "We don't have to prove anything, you are guilty if we suspect you of doing anything"

I for one don't like your country if this is how American citizens are treated in the United States of America of twenty first century....

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Old 03-26-2012, 12:28 AM
 
Location: Mableton, GA USA (NW Atlanta suburb, 4 miles OTP)
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This is a better solution than randomly suing people. It's supposed to be completely automated. No one will be manually reviewing your usage. So it's only bad if you're a thief.
...or if you have unsecured wireless that someone else decides to abuse. Or if a web sites redirects you to a site and/or file which is of questionable nature without telling you. Etc.
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Old 03-26-2012, 12:30 AM
 
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...or if you have unsecured wireless that someone else decides to abuse.
It could also be some idiot with a router password of "abc123" -or- "myrouter"

Unsupervised children on the Internet
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Old 03-26-2012, 01:02 AM
 
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...or if you have unsecured wireless that someone else decides to abuse. Or if a web sites redirects you to a site and/or file which is of questionable nature without telling you. Etc.
So you rather be randomly sued in these situations?
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Old 03-26-2012, 01:06 AM
 
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This the United States of America is it not?

Where one can voice their displeasure on something?

Or has that freedom been taken away by your government too?

With this new policy "One is innocent until proven guilty" has been replaced by the MPAA and RIAA rule of "We don't have to prove anything, you are guilty if we suspect you of doing anything"

I for one don't like your country if this is how American citizens are treated in the United States of America of twenty first century....
That was more of a general statement. You can voice your opinion, but you're more likely to get results with a mass silent protest against these corporations.
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Old 03-26-2012, 07:23 AM
 
Location: Wicker Park, Chicago
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If AT&T did that to me I'd switch to a small internet provider like RCN, which has way faster internet anyway.

I'm beginning to hate Obama too.
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Old 03-26-2012, 07:30 AM
 
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I wonder if people start switching to VPN"s or IIRC
I also wonder if p2p blockers will work in this situation.

Anyhow their plan is to throttle down users who are caught multiple times which will lead to subscribers cancelling their accounts I think.

Its pretty sad to see a company which relies on their customers business, policing those same people.
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Old 03-26-2012, 07:42 AM
 
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My understanding is the ISP will not be monitoring you activity. AFAIK this formalizes what they are already doing. The RIAA will be doing the monitoring for the illegal activity and send a notice to your ISP when they see infringing activity from an IP on their network. The ISP will then send you a notice.

The ISP may take action for repeat offenders like suspending or throttling their service but I think it's like 6 notices before that. One thing this will do is get a lot of parents to sit up and take notice of what their kids are doing.
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Old 03-26-2012, 07:42 AM
 
Location: WV and Eastport, ME
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Then why do you care if your ISP is going to monitor their network for illegally downloaded material?
Because it's none of their damn business. Their job is to connect me to the Internet. Period. It is not their job to monitor what goes over their network beyond what is required to protect their own equipment from attack.

Many examples can be provided where individuals are being targeted for copyright violations without a presumption of innocence or any legal protections of the individuals. Most people do not have the resources to fund a defense against a law suit against Disney for copying a picture to use as Desktop wallpaper.

I think that ISP's should have they special tax status revoked if they interfere with customers' use of the Internet at all.

This is invasive in another way, but it feels similar to what is currently in the news about prospective employers demanding an applicant's passwords for social networking sites.
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