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Old 03-29-2012, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Everywhere USA
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Can anyone please give me an idea of what Tamaware and Naverisk are for?

There was a work dispute and now these are on the computers...I think they are monitoring software, but what are they capable of?

Long story not worth getting into here - just curious if anyone can tell me what you would use these to accomplish. Thanks.
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Old 03-29-2012, 09:35 PM
 
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Looks like Tamaware is a software consulting firm:

Tamaware, Inc - Home

Naverisk seems to be managed security services:

IT Management Software for the SMB IT Service Provider and IT Professional | Naverisk

If these are work computers they belong to your company, right?

Just treat your work system as if your boss was standing over your shoulder watching everything you do....
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Old 03-30-2012, 11:06 AM
 
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Have they fired any IT people lately? Is your company growing?

Looks like they're trying to make the management of the workstations and data easier.
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Old 04-02-2012, 07:09 AM
 
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Default Just curious

The deal is that the owner is paranoid that someone there is taking his client list; without any good reason, so I think that is why they have been installed.

From what I gather, they are monitoring software, but I've seen my Outlook email on another person's computer; I don't give two hoots about their accounts but they got burned by previous employees, so I guess that is it?

Anyway...my employer and I had a conflict because they run this very small place very badly, and we had a huge blowout. That is when they installed the spyware/monitoring software.

The other reason (please note I have not done anything to them, just annoyed with the dysfunction and we talked about it) is that they are looking for a reason to fire me without my qualifying for unemployment. They won't find anything, because I didn't write anything.

I'm not worried, but I find the whole process pretty juvenile...
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Old 04-02-2012, 06:59 PM
 
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The deal is that the owner is paranoid that someone there is taking his client list; without any good reason, so I think that is why they have been installed.

From what I gather, they are monitoring software, but I've seen my Outlook email on another person's computer; I don't give two hoots about their accounts but they got burned by previous employees, so I guess that is it?

Anyway...my employer and I had a conflict because they run this very small place very badly, and we had a huge blowout. That is when they installed the spyware/monitoring software.

The other reason (please note I have not done anything to them, just annoyed with the dysfunction and we talked about it) is that they are looking for a reason to fire me without my qualifying for unemployment. They won't find anything, because I didn't write anything.

I'm not worried, but I find the whole process pretty juvenile...
The same can be said for most businesses and government organizations.

Productivity takes a backseat to monitoring your activities...
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Old 04-03-2012, 10:56 AM
 
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Dude, you fought with your boss? To the point where it became a "blowout"?!?!

Not cool. Highly unprofessional. You are now officially a "disgruntled employee".

Your employer is being prudent - not juvenile - to protect his intellectual assets. You're lucky you're still employed. You already gave him an adequate reason to fire you.
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Old 04-03-2012, 01:00 PM
 
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Dude, you fought with your boss? To the point where it became a "blowout"?!?!

Not cool. Highly unprofessional. You are now officially a "disgruntled employee".

Your employer is being prudent - not juvenile - to protect his intellectual assets. You're lucky you're still employed. You already gave him an adequate reason to fire you.
In this modern society some people seem to think a job is a God given right where they are entitled to perform that job and follow the rules as they see fit, not as their employer dictates.

Had a software engineer where I worked, was tasked with designing an application THIS way, he designed it HIS way and when he presented the alpha to management was told THIS way.

He went back and kept working on it HIS way grumbling "management is dumb, they have no idea what they are talking about, they'll see what a genius I am when I finish this"

The next week he was fired...

Management employs you, they provide the hardware, software and network connections. One has no right to complain about how management dictates what one does with THEIR equipment, one doesn't like it?

Do the adult American thing, QUIT...
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Old 04-03-2012, 10:54 PM
 
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Dude, you fought with your boss? To the point where it became a "blowout"?!?!

Not cool. Highly unprofessional. You are now officially a "disgruntled employee".

Your employer is being prudent - not juvenile - to protect his intellectual assets. You're lucky you're still employed. You already gave him an adequate reason to fire you.
Dude, she is a dudette! lol

But I agree, getting into a argument with management is not wise, a blowout is like starting the countdown on a time-bomb!
You should just present your idea/opinion but know that ultimately, what they say/want goes. No need to get mad or worry about their decision. You have done more than enough by sharing your opinion, even if it was meant to be a good thing. At work place, no good deed, that you didn't have to do, goes unpunished.
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Old 04-13-2012, 12:11 AM
 
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Default Thanks for the replies

I can only describe it as the Texas Chainsaw Massacre family and yes, I am internally crying and trying to escape.

Their paranoia is not from me, but from previous employees who tried to steal their accounts; I could give two hoots about it.

Believe me, they are not being "prudent"...they cannot even staff or train; long story short, the owner had one long-term employee who basically ran the office and made him a ton. Once she took off, her and her new employer tried to solicit his clients. I have not been that involved; my area of work was supposed to be compliance (totally different) and I did report him to a public entity because he was and is breaking the law in this state and others.

It was not overnight; I gave him nearly 2 years to comply, and he thinks he can fly under the radar.

My work is impeccable and what I believe is happening is that they are digging through my emails to see if they have "good cause" to fire me, which they don't.

That's where the monitoring software came into play...
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Old 04-13-2012, 12:16 AM
 
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Default P.s.

I have an employment attorney who I have already previewed my case with, because their conduct is retaliatory - I did nothing wrong.

I just wanted to know, as a tech person, what these software were capable of doing.

My Outlook was on someone else's computer, so I think they are taking the ones from clients and re-routing them. I don't care, but they should...employment laws are clear that constructive discharge includes substantial change in duties and they never said "Hey, you won't be working on accounts anymore"...nothing in writing...just rumor from the son at the workplace, little comments like "Are you sure you should be looking at that?"

It's insane-I don't think a year from now I am even going to be in this industry, which I have already mentioned.

In addition they are mid-sale, about to close the deal at the end of the month, so maybe also paranoid I would slander them, but legally, I would not do that for obvious reasons.

The advice is not from an attorney...it is from the boss' pet. It's a small 4 person agency; they aren't going to invest alot in it, I think he just doesn't want me to report them to the other states they are operating in illegally. As if I couldn't do it from home...whateber...
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