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Old 02-21-2013, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Hopewell New Jersey
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I'm a single guy so this isn't a concern for me but friends asked me (as if I'm all that up on all this) if they can monitor there teenage daughters internet activity. They are aware of keystroke recorders but that would mean they have access to her laptop for some period of time, and apparently she "lives" with the thing.
They have WiFi in the house so of course they know the access passwords etc. Is there a utility etc they can use to monitor the back and forth activity? They are willing to buy software as needed.

Please...let's not devolve into a discussion re personal privacy issues etc. These are concerned parents with a 13 year old daughter who has recently gotten a new set of friends that are older and apparently a bit "suspect".

To recap: Can, and if so how (be specific) can they monitor their daughters online activity via they're own WiFI system ??

Thanks

jb
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Old 02-21-2013, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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My friend uses this:
K9 Web Protection - Free Internet Filter and Parental Control Software | Free Internet Filtering and Parental Controls Software
And likes it. Thankfully because I recommended it to her.
And it's free.
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Old 02-21-2013, 09:20 AM
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Location: Tyler, TX
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The way I do it isn't for the average consumer, but it works quite well.

I have a linux machine set up as our internet gateway. It's what connects the home network to the internet. The wireless router in our house is configured to just be an access point, and doesn't actually do any routing.

On the linux machine, I'm running a proxy server, which takes over a web request, fetches the document and serves it back to the user, and then logs the transaction to a file, which I can then run reports on to see who's doing what online. The beauty of this setup is that it's totally transparent - there's no setup that has to be done on the users' PCs.

It only catches web pages, though, and of those, only the ones that aren't secure/encrypted. Secure connections (https) can be proxied, but it's more trouble than it's worth for my needs. I'm not concerned about IMs or email, as both our boys use their cellphones to communicate with their friends. I just want to know if they're cruising for p0rn, mostly.
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Old 02-21-2013, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Hopewell New Jersey
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Peregrine:

Thanks for your quick reply but you apparently missed the point. Your link is to a software package that would have to be loaded onto her laptop...something I said was very unlikely of them being able to do.
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Old 02-21-2013, 09:44 AM
 
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Log in to the router, set the DNS servers to opendns.com. View what sites were visited.

Alternatively, the router software itself may have a logging feature built in that you just need to turn on.
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Old 02-21-2013, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Hopewell New Jersey
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That's a good idea..I'll pass it on... if it makes any difference I think they have a Belkin.

And... BTW...I think their major interest are Email exchanges but as we know facebook should be of interest to them as well.

She does have a bare bones cell phone , it does have txting capability..but that's not what I'm trying to address here.

thnx
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Old 02-21-2013, 10:39 AM
 
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The way I do it isn't for the average consumer, but it works quite well.

I have a linux machine set up as our internet gateway. It's what connects the home network to the internet. The wireless router in our house is configured to just be an access point, and doesn't actually do any routing.

On the linux machine, I'm running a proxy server, which takes over a web request, fetches the document and serves it back to the user, and then logs the transaction to a file, which I can then run reports on to see who's doing what online. The beauty of this setup is that it's totally transparent - there's no setup that has to be done on the users' PCs.

It only catches web pages, though, and of those, only the ones that aren't secure/encrypted. Secure connections (https) can be proxied, but it's more trouble than it's worth for my needs. I'm not concerned about IMs or email, as both our boys use their cellphones to communicate with their friends. I just want to know if they're cruising for p0rn, mostly.

swagger has the best way. ^^

What the OP is asking for is more technical to do than the average parent/computer user is going to want to learn how to do. It involves some networking skills and knowledge. You do packet sniffing using wireshark but there will be a learning curve.

The problem is if they realize you are monitoring their traffic, they will work through a proxy or use a neighbor's open wireless, hack a neighbor's secured wireless or go use public wireless.

Honestly, if they want to view unsavory sites or talk to certain people you don't want them to, they are going to work around any circumventions you try to put in place. Most teenagers will have worked around the software like peregrine suggested before they even finish laughing at it and if his friend's kids that are using that K9 software want to view porn, I can guarantee you they are and that software is nothing more than a minor inconvenience. Most of them already know about it but for the ones that don't, ten minutes of google searching and reading and they will know that they can boot up on a linux live cd and have full control of the computer and go anywhere they want on the internet. Those "cyber nanny" types of software are a complete joke to teenagers.....all it really does is make the parents feel better because they think they have done something although it was more or less a complete waste of time.

So what I am getting at is you can either drive yourself nuts trying to monitor everything teenagers do and try to prevent it and waste your time or you can talk to them about the things that concern you and put it out in the open. Discuss what concerns you and why and what could be consequences. Otherwise, the harder you try to control them, the harder they are going to work at rebelling against it.
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Old 02-21-2013, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Whittier
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So what I am getting at is you can either drive yourself nuts trying to monitor everything teenagers do and try to prevent it and waste your time or you can talk to them about the things that concern you and put it out in the open. Discuss what concerns you and why and what could be consequences. Otherwise, the harder you try to control them, the harder they are going to work at rebelling against it.
Exactly.

The parent needs to tell the daughter he is concerned about her and that she should be very careful who she talks to and interacts with online.

And when this talk happens, then mom takes the computer and does all of the snooping. lol.
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Old 02-21-2013, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Hopewell New Jersey
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dijkstra:

Very Good..and sound advice...I personally agree with you 100%...but it's not my call.

I kinda gather they want to make sure they're on solid info ground before they have a "sit down".

jb
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Old 02-21-2013, 10:54 AM
 
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Log in to the router, set the DNS servers to opendns.com. View what sites were visited.

Alternatively, the router software itself may have a logging feature built in that you just need to turn on.
This is also easily circumvented and most teenagers know it or will google it. It is as simple as using vpn/proxies which they already know about because they have been doing all of this on school computers for years.

All of you guys do realize teenagers probably already know how to circumvent most everything you can come up with because their schools do it on their networks. They try every way in the world to keep them off of facebook and other sites on the school computers but they step around it easily.

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Very Good..and sound advice...I personally agree with you 100%...but it's not my call.

I kinda gather they want to make sure they're on solid info ground before they have a "sit down".

jb
Personally I would do some pre-emptive talks rather than waiting until there is actually a problem. First she is going to be completely ticked off that they have been spying on her....you know how teenagers are about that. Then it will blow up into a big argument and she will really turn on the rebellion.
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