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Old 07-01-2013, 01:07 PM
 
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I'm reading all the dissatisfaction posts about Windows 8, and I was wondering....

If a person buys a new pc that comes with Windows 8 and they really don't like it. Say they have an OEM Windows 7 installation disk or an OEM Vista disk, can they install those without much hassle (since it's a step back from Windows 8)? What would happen?

With a retail, full version Win 7 or Vista there would be no problem.
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Old 07-01-2013, 01:20 PM
 
Location: NW Penna.
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It can be problematic for laptops that lack manufacturer support for Windows 7 (Vista, XP.) As long as you are careful to not delete the Win8 recovery partition when you wipe the OS ,it's not too hard to restore them back. Make your recovery disk set as soon as you get the laptop is always a good idea. Actually, make 2 sets.

I think most of the desktop machines are better supported by Windows 7. Laptops tend to have proprietary motherboards and sometimes there are no Win7 (or Vista or XP) drivers for them unless the manufacturer provides them.

People have also ditched Win8 for Linux distros, too.

An OEM version is supposed to be permanently tied to a one motherboard, so it it's been installed on another machine, whether or not you can coerce MS to allow an OEM Win7 to activate is another problem you might encounter. There are ways around that, but you can search the Internet for those cracks and hacks.

Use a program like Classic Shell or another shell/overlay program in conjunction with Win8 is another work-around. I did that with the test version of Win8 just because it was easier to find where MS hid things in Win8, haha. Free, very easy to do, no license issues involved.
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Old 07-01-2013, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Wandering.
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I've moved and reactivated my OEM disk 3 times over the last 4 years or so (when upgrading or rebuilding my machine). Never an issue, although I did have to use the phone system to activate it once.
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Old 07-01-2013, 02:30 PM
 
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I'm reading all the dissatisfaction posts about Windows 8, and I was wondering....

If a person buys a new pc that comes with Windows 8 and they really don't like it. Say they have an OEM Windows 7 installation disk or an OEM Vista disk, can they install those without much hassle (since it's a step back from Windows 8)? What would happen?

With a retail, full version Win 7 or Vista there would be no problem.
With Windows 7 OEM's, they did a little change that angered many as before it, one could reuse their OEM over and over as they changed machines. Windows 7 started to take an imprint of the hardware (mostly the MB/Processor) and locked it to that machine so if you upgraded, you had to buy another copy.

There is a workaround though, simply call up MS and tell them that the MB died and you are upgrading. They will reset your copy over the phone so you can activate it on your "upgraded" machine. I have personally done this, so it will work.

One thing though, I am not sure it will work for factory partition based OEM's (where they keep an image of the software on the machine rather than giving you a physical copy). It may, I just don't know for sure.
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Old 07-01-2013, 02:33 PM
 
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I've moved and reactivated my OEM disk 3 times over the last 4 years or so (when upgrading or rebuilding my machine). Never an issue, although I did have to use the phone system to activate it once.
That is good to hear, when I spoke to the MS guy, he asked if I ever called before to re-activate. I was wondering if it would be a problem in the future as I switched out machines again.
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Old 07-01-2013, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Wandering.
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One thing though, I am not sure it will work for factory partition based OEM's (where they keep an image of the software on the machine rather than giving you a physical copy). It may, I just don't know for sure.
One thing worth noting, my OEM disk is a "Retail OEM" disk, not one that came bundled with a machine.
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Old 07-02-2013, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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$5.00.
Windows 8 start menu returns with Start8 from Stardock!
$5.00.
Windows 8 start menu returns with Start8 from Stardock!
$5.00

Just buy that and have your Start button back and working the way it used to but save yourself the headache of having to reinstall the OS. AND reap the benefits (because believe it or not there are some) of Windows 8 while having it look the way it used too...

Not one person that has taken my advice and bought that has regretted it.
I only wish I had thought of it.
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Old 07-02-2013, 02:08 PM
 
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Or just wait till 8.1 and get it from the big M themselves.

Edit: Actually maybe not, it looks like the start button is just a button to bring up the old metro "start" menu, I'm downloading the 8.1 preview right now so I'll report back shortly.
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Old 07-02-2013, 05:41 PM
 
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Or just wait till 8.1 and get it from the big M themselves.

Edit: Actually maybe not, it looks like the start button is just a button to bring up the old metro "start" menu, I'm downloading the 8.1 preview right now so I'll report back shortly.
No need to report back, we already know 8.1 does not have the classic start menu.
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Old 07-03-2013, 11:56 AM
 
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I couldn't get it to install anyway, hangs at 95% and I'm not about to waste time trying to fix it
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