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Old 07-22-2013, 01:32 AM
 
Location: Mississippi
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My company recently gave me access to the company Wi-Fi and I log in with a username and password. The Wi-Fi system is Intranet only and has absolutely zero connection to the internet that I know of. Having just gotten access to this a few weeks ago, I'm still not used to having to turn the Wi-Fi on my iPhone off every time I want to check my e-mail or go to a webpage. The other night, while at work but right at the end of my shift, I received a text message from a buddy of mine which said "Hey mate. Next time you're in England you should go here:" www. peachy pleasures. com" I didn't think much of it at the time and I only scanned the title of the link so briefly that I didn't even notice the word "pleasures" in it. I clicked on the link in my text message window and then became distracted by a question a co-worker asked me. I answered my co-workers question, looked down at my iPhone and realized two things at almost the exact same time:

1. The full name of the site (I hadn't paid much attention to the URL name up until that point) and that it hadn't loaded.

2. That I was connected to the Intranet only Wi-Fi.

I immediately closed the window in Safari and disconnected from the company Wi-Fi. If I had to guess, the total time elapsed from the time I got the text, clicked on the link, looked over to answer my co-workers' question and looked back down at the phone and disconnected was maybe 10-15 seconds.

Of course, this all had to happen 30 minutes before going home for a three-day weekend. Needless to say, I've been sweating bullets like a madman thinking that I'm going to get canned for something that was so genuinely mistaken and clumsy with absolutely no malicious intent. I know better than to do something like that and I'm not the kind of person who would sneak around trying to load pornography on my phone 30 minutes before quitting time (or any time). Is this something that someone working in IT might flag and report or would they realize that the page never loaded, that it was only for 10-15 seconds and that it could have been a genuine mistake? Or, if it's intranet only, would they even bother to check what people are trying to access since they wouldn't be able to access it anyway? I am well aware that companies can and do monitor wi-fi traffic but I assume that's primarily for the internet and not intranet. What would be the point in monitoring a bunch of things people couldn't gain access to anyway?
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Old 07-22-2013, 09:16 AM
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Best thing to do to reassure yourself is go look at the Acceptable Use Policy for the company network in your employee handbook. All any of us can do is speculate.
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Old 07-22-2013, 09:32 AM
 
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The other night, while at work but right at the end of my shift
You'll probably know either by the end of today or the end of this week. Since you cleared it immediately it will be looked upon differently than if you'd gone browsing the site (Which you couldn't do on an Intranet). Companies monitor differently depending on their past experience and paranoia.

Think about it; if this is an intranet only site then you can't get to the Internet using it so they probably can't monitor that since you're using the cell system to access it, not their wifi.

Since this is an Intranet-only system I would think the monitoring is is more relaxed than one allowing Internet access.
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Old 07-22-2013, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Somewhere in northern Alabama
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"Think about it; if this is an intranet only site then you can't get to the Internet using it so they probably can't monitor that since you're using the cell system to access it, not their wifi."

This ^^^^

Don't sweat it. The localnet traffic would be monitored and logged, but they don't have access to your cellphone account. Isn't that peachy keen?
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Old 07-22-2013, 12:17 PM
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Think about it; if this is an intranet only site then you can't get to the Internet using it so they probably can't monitor that since you're using the cell system to access it, not their wifi.
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Don't sweat it. The localnet traffic would be monitored and logged, but they don't have access to your cellphone account. Isn't that peachy keen?
Relevant snippets from the OP:

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My company recently gave me access to the company Wi-Fi and I log in with a username and password.

I'm still not used to having to turn the Wi-Fi on my iPhone off every time I want to check my e-mail or go to a webpage.

looked down at my iPhone and realized two things at almost the exact same time:

I was connected to the Intranet only Wi-Fi.
Because the OP had to login to access the wifi, his use of the wifi via the iPhone is traceable to his iPhone, if it is logged.

Were it not for the username and password login process which ties the access to the user, I agree that usage of the LAN via the unregistered iPhone would be anonymous.

What I wonder is whether the OP would be better able to avoid this situation in the future by not connecting the iPhone to this workplace wifi in the first place.
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Old 07-22-2013, 12:58 PM
 
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What I wonder is whether the OP would be better able to avoid this situation in the future by not connecting the iPhone to this workplace wifi in the first place.
If he was at work, why was he connecting to WiFi on his phone at all?
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Old 07-22-2013, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in northern Alabama
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The point is that the office INTRAnet is virgin. It doesn't connect to anything outside. In other words, if you tried to access CNN.COM on it, it would fail because of a lack of a connection. The website that the OP tried to contact was also OUTSIDE of the intranet and on the internet. Net traffic would show the request as a single failed request from that device. Net traffic will also show failed update requests from various bits of installed software, any attempts by malware or spyware to "call home" as well as user generated requests. My guess (wink wink, nudge nudge) if that if pressed, the OP must have been having problems with malware. Or to put it another way, a place that would get bent out of shape from a single error is not a place I would ever want to work. (Knowing the way many corporations work, top management gets a free pass on just about anything.)
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Old 07-22-2013, 01:19 PM
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Location: Ohio
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The point is that the office INTRAnet is virgin. It doesn't connect to anything outside. In other words, if you tried to access CNN.COM on it, it would fail because of a lack of a connection. The website that the OP tried to contact was also OUTSIDE of the intranet and on the internet. Net traffic would show the request as a single failed request from that device. Net traffic will also show failed update requests from various bits of installed software, any attempts by malware or spyware to "call home" as well as user generated requests. My guess (wink wink, nudge nudge) if that if pressed, the OP must have been having problems with malware.
I agree, in principle. The reason I suggested initially that the OP look up the employer's AUP is that the distinction of whether the site and its content were actually accessed might be crucial to whether the policy was violated. Requesting an inappropriate site without actually accessing it shouldn't be a violation, and seems unlikely to be a violation, but only the AUP can provide that answer for sure.

I'm just not willing to pat the OP on the head and say that everything will be fine without knowing for sure that there wasn't a violation of the AUP. Those of us who know the technology this well tend not to think the same way as the legal eagles and management types who make the rules.
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Old 07-22-2013, 01:59 PM
 
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You're still missing the point. The company doesn't know about his accessing that site. At all. Nada. Zilch.

Why?

Because while his WiFi is connecting to the Intranet, the Internet is being accessed through his cell phone company. Through the cell phone tower, not WiFi.

BUT...

Now that I've thought more about it something seems a bit hinky.

I don't have or understand iPhones, so someone answer me this: Can you have WiFi and, for example, 3G active at the same time on an iPhone? I ask because when I run WiFi on my Android 3G disappears. So if the answer is no then the text came in through the company connection. And if that is true then the site request he made went out through the company WiFi.

Oops!
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Old 07-22-2013, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC
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You're still missing the point. The company doesn't know about his accessing that site. At all. Nada. Zilch.

Why?

Because while his WiFi is connecting to the Intranet, the Internet is being accessed through his cell phone company. Through the cell phone tower, not WiFi.

BUT...

Now that I've thought more about it something seems a bit hinky.

I don't have or understand iPhones, so someone answer me this: Can you have WiFi and, for example, 3G active at the same time on an iPhone? I ask because when I run WiFi on my Android 3G disappears. So if the answer is no then the text came in through the company connection. And if that is true then the site request he made went out through the company WiFi.

Oops!
Same way with an iPhone. It automatically "disconnects" from the 3G/4G data service and connects to the WiFi. So, anything he was trying to access via his phone will be on the company's wifi connection.
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