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Old 12-23-2013, 07:35 AM
 
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OK, I'm trying to help my son via phone set-up a new Win8 computer for my grandson. Both of us are currently using XP, so we are challenged. Current big issue is email. His email provider is RoadRunner, which does not support IMAP. Win8 obviously does not like POP3 accounts.

RR tech suggested purchasing Outlook. That cost is tough to justify for a pre-teen. Tech then suggested downloading Windows Essentials(?). I also recall some posts from along ago that recommended Thunderbird for Win7.

Any recommendations for a quick (Christmas present), cheap (all money has been spent) solution that we can implement over a phone call?

Any suggestions sincerely appreciated. Thanks and Merry Christmas!
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Old 12-23-2013, 08:37 AM
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OK, I'm trying to help my son via phone set-up a new Win8 computer for my grandson. Both of us are currently using XP, so we are challenged. Current big issue is email. His email provider is RoadRunner, which does not support IMAP. Win8 obviously does not like POP3 accounts.

RR tech suggested purchasing Outlook. That cost is tough to justify for a pre-teen. Tech then suggested downloading Windows Essentials(?). I also recall some posts from along ago that recommended Thunderbird for Win7.

Any recommendations for a quick (Christmas present), cheap (all money has been spent) solution that we can implement over a phone call?

Any suggestions sincerely appreciated. Thanks and Merry Christmas!
Switch to gmail or outlook.com (free). Install Thunderbird (also free).

There's no excuse for not supporting IMAP. POP made no sense in the 90s, and it makes even less sense now that people routinely have more than one device.
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Old 12-23-2013, 09:15 AM
 
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Switch to gmail or outlook.com (free). Install Thunderbird (also free).

There's no excuse for not supporting IMAP. POP made no sense in the 90s, and it makes even less sense now that people routinely have more than one device.
Both POP and IMAP have their place. I personally wouldn't use a provider that didn't provide POP. I don't want to have to rely on someone else to provide mail backup, or preserving 10+ years of mail history, and I've found having tens of thousands of messages on the server to be a pain at best.
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Old 12-23-2013, 09:19 AM
 
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OK, I'm trying to help my son via phone set-up a new Win8 computer for my grandson. Both of us are currently using XP, so we are challenged. Current big issue is email. His email provider is RoadRunner, which does not support IMAP. Win8 obviously does not like POP3 accounts.

RR tech suggested purchasing Outlook. That cost is tough to justify for a pre-teen. Tech then suggested downloading Windows Essentials(?). I also recall some posts from along ago that recommended Thunderbird for Win7.

Any recommendations for a quick (Christmas present), cheap (all money has been spent) solution that we can implement over a phone call?

Any suggestions sincerely appreciated. Thanks and Merry Christmas!
Windows Live essentials will provide Live Mail (I think that's what they call it this week), which is the successor to Outlook Express from the old days.

As has been suggested, Thunderbird is a free email client that can be used as well. It's from Mozilla (the Firefox folks), and while is pretty decent for a free client.
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Old 12-23-2013, 09:21 AM
 
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Apparently, having a private email program through your server is a thing of the past. I recently went from XP to Windows 7 to discover the only choice is the type email I've only used for internet business or entertainment such as gmail, yahoo or outlook as in live.com. Outlook is free.
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Old 12-23-2013, 09:40 AM
 
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Switch to gmail or outlook.com (free). Install Thunderbird (also free). There's no excuse for not supporting IMAP. POP made no sense in the 90s, and it makes even less sense now that people routinely have more than one device.
Thanks for the feedback. Project is on hold for last-minute Christmas shopping, but I think we're going to try to download and install Thunderbird. It's my understanding that none of the major cable providers such as TW, Comcast, etc offer IMAP support. If MS continues to require IMAP, I don't understand how the cable providers can avoid it for long. Thanks again for your help.

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...Outlook is free.
Really? Where? I recall being able to get a free outlook.com email address, but the MS Outlook email client I found online was expensive. RoadRunner's tech support was recommending that I purchase the Outlook program since MS no longer offers the free Outlook Express email client that was available thru XP.
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Old 12-23-2013, 09:40 AM
 
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Apparently, having a private email program through your server is a thing of the past. I recently went from XP to Windows 7 to discover the only choice is the type email I've only used for internet business or entertainment such as gmail, yahoo or outlook as in live.com. Outlook is free.
There's no client installed by default, but you can add any number of them, including Live Mail, or Thunderbird.

Windows Essentials: Other Programs - Microsoft Windows

Mozilla Thunderbird
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Old 12-23-2013, 09:47 AM
 
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Windows Live essentials will provide Live Mail (I think that's what they call it this week), which is the successor to Outlook Express from the old days.
Thanks - I'm looking at that too. Doing some online research, I keep seeing references to some backward compatibility issues with .NET framework when using Live Mail with Win8. I'm not sure we could work thru that over the phone between now and Weds. Any experiences with Live Mail on Win8?
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Old 12-23-2013, 09:49 AM
 
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Thanks - I'm looking at that too. Doing some online research, I keep seeing references to some backward compatibility issues with .NET framework when using Live Mail with Win8. I'm not sure we could work thru that over the phone between now and Weds. Any experiences with Live Mail on Win8?
Unfortunately no .... we use Outlook on all of our machines.

I'd probably just go for Thunderbird.
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Old 12-23-2013, 10:00 AM
 
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Thanks for your quick response. I think we're gonna start with Thunderbird. Sounds like a good option. Again, thanks for your help.
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