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Old 03-04-2014, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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Old 03-04-2014, 09:51 AM
 
Location: NW Penna.
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With Windows 8, the operating system got in the way of what I was trying to do. Its charm menu lacked familiarity and didn't provide immediate access to Windows tools I use. It also seemed to be actively "hiding" administrative options I need, treating me as if I were a three year old and forcing me to jump through hoops to find and use various tools. It was neither familiar nor intuitive.

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True dat. Wth did Microsoft put stuff in 8????! I only used the Win8 Consumer Preview. And I am an experienced Windows user, and I really forced myself, for a solid month, use that Win8 CP with Metro interface on a non-touchscreen laptop. And after a month I was still PO'd at the loss of productivity and the need to always have to Google or go visit a forum to find out how to do something that required finding a "hidden" feature.

So, I installed Classic Shell on there, and the fog lifted and the sun shined brightly. Overall, I think I could easily move back and forth between Win XP / Vista / 7, but Win8 was just impractical as-in but no problem with Classic Shell loaded.

If Win8 came with a laptop or PC, and my choices were either pay extra to get a copy of 7, or stick Classic Shell onto 8, I'd stick with 8.

If there is no difference in price, you have both options, and you are not interested in learning 8, then just get Win7.
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Old 03-04-2014, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Coeur d'Alene, Idaho
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So, I installed Classic Shell on there, and the fog lifted and the sun shined brightly. Overall, I think I could easily move back and forth between Win XP / Vista / 7, but Win8 was just impractical as-in but no problem with Classic Shell loaded.
Good thought. I happened to have an extra key lying around for 7 that I'd purchased, but never used so I went with that. Didn't try Classic Shell, but that looks like a good option for anyone who doesn't want to buy 7 and/or doesn't want to go through the painful runaround of nixing 8 in order to install 7.
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Old 03-04-2014, 11:08 AM
 
Location: NJ
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I have no problems with Windows 8.1. If you get a Windows 8 machine, you have to go into the Microsoft Store app and download 8.1. There is no automatic 8.0 to 8.1 update that I'm aware of.

I actually like the 8.1 Start Menu better than prior versions of windows...less clicking and easier to read.
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Old 03-04-2014, 01:26 PM
 
Location: NW Penna.
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Windows 8 is the ONLY new MS Windows that I opted to not buy. And that was because the consumer preview edition was such a turn-off that I decided I didn't need it. Win8.1 might be great, but now I have set up with Win7 HP and Win7 Pro, I have no need to go out and purchase Win8.1. Only if the laptop dies and the new ones only come with Win8 is the only way I will not be completely skipping Windows 8.
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Old 03-05-2014, 01:20 AM
 
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You makje it sound like 2 completely different things. If anyone CAN still buy 8... within a week of owning it you will be prompted to get the free 8.1 update.
They are different versions of Windows. Just like Windows 8 is an incremental (subversion) version of Windows 7, Windows 8.1 is an incremental version of Windows 8. So to suggest that they aren't "different things" also suggests that Windows 7 and Windows 8 aren't "different things". But we know that not to be true and in the context of the OP's question, it's quite evident.
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DO they even sell 8? That wouldn't make sense...
Yes. And it does make sense when you consider the supply chain of home and home office computers. Here's a small list of computers that are still available with Windows 8:

The Dell Online Store: Build Your System

ThinkPad X240 Ultrabook Laptop | Lenovo | Lenovo (US)

Notebooks & Ultrabooks - X200CA

ASUS VivoBook - Transform Your Expectations

ThinkPad Twist Secure Convertible Laptop & Tablet | Lenovo (US)

Thinkpad X131e (Intel) Laptop, Built for Durability | Lenovo (US)

ThinkPad L440 | Mainstream Performer With Aggressive Pricing Optimized for Windows 8 | | Lenovo (US)

HP ENVY Rove 20-k120us Mobile All-in-One Desktop PC (ENERGY STAR) | HP® Official Store

HP ENVY Rove 20-k014us Mobile All-in-One Desktop PC | HP® Official Store

ThinkPad T540p Business Laptop | Lenovo | Lenovo (US)

ThinkPad W540 | Mobile Workstation | | Lenovo (US)

ThinkPad L540 | Mainstream Performer With Aggressive Pricing Optimized for Windows 8 | | Lenovo (US)

Amazon.com: ASUS Haswell Intel Core i5 27" IPS Touchscreen (2560x1440) All-in-one PC Windows 8 64-bit ET2702-01: Computers & Accessories

ThinkPad T440 Laptops & Ultrabooks | Lenovo | Lenovo (US)

ThinkPad E545 | Small Business Laptop With New AMD Processor | | Lenovo (US)

HP Pavilion 10 TouchSmart 10z-e000 Notebook PC (ENERGY STAR) | HP® Official Store

HP Split 13t-m100 x2 PC | HP® Official Store

ThinkPad T440p Business Laptop | Lenovo | Lenovo (US)

HP Pavilion 23-g010 All-in-One Desktop PC (ENERGY STAR) | HP® Official Store

ThinkPad T440s Ultrabook Laptop | Lenovo | Lenovo (US)

ThinkPad X140e | Lenovo | Lenovo (US)

The Dell Online Store: Build Your System

Tablet Laptop Hybrid: ThinkPad Helix Ultrabook Laptop - Free Shipping | Lenovo (US)

The Dell Online Store: Build Your System

HP Split 13t-g100 x2 PC | HP® Official Store

The Dell Online Store: Build Your System

ASUS ROG G750 Gaming Notebook
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Old 03-05-2014, 04:12 AM
 
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Default Where to buy a PC with windows 7

How to get a new PC that runs Windows 7, not Windows 8 | PCWorld
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Old 03-05-2014, 11:48 AM
 
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All I know is with this much dissatisfaction, people are gonna vote with their money.
Make them lose market share, have someone develop an OS similar to Windows 7 and not the 8 garbage.
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Old 03-05-2014, 09:21 PM
 
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You can run your computer with either. There's always Pros and Cons on both. There are new improvements on windows 8 I think you should give it a try out you might ended up liking it.
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Old 03-06-2014, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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Yes. And it does make sense when you consider the supply chain of home and home office computers. Here's a small list of computers that are still available with Windows 8:
Come on best. You know damn well as soon as you buy an 8 computer, you will be prompted to update to the FREE 8.1.
Microsoft is NOT touting Windows 8 as its own OS.
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