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Old 08-18-2014, 12:10 PM
 
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I'm trying to explain something to someone online, but its not getting through. So I need a few of you to chime in.


What are the ramification to a computer if a person continuously (daily) does a forced shut down with the power button due to a complete software lockup?
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Old 08-18-2014, 12:49 PM
 
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Well, that's not the way Windows should be shut down. I would think that given enough shutdowns done this way, that eventually Windows may refuse to start due to some corrupted system files. It may be fixable by starting in Safe Mode or invoking a Restore Point. It would be wise to make Restore Points often. The user should research the cause of the software lockups.
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Old 08-18-2014, 02:00 PM
 
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I'm trying to explain something to someone online, but its not getting through. So I need a few of you to chime in.


What are the ramification to a computer if a person continuously (daily) does a forced shut down with the power button due to a complete software lockup?
Due to a complete software lockup? No more harm done than if you were to try to shutdown normally. You'll likely never get it to shutdown properly and will end up just using the forced shutdown anyway. If this person is having to shutdown the computer like this daily, then the solution isn't to tell him/her "that's not how you shut it down" the solution is to fix the problem (which obviously exists).
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Old 08-18-2014, 03:47 PM
 
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Does the PC not have a "pin" reset button ? That would at least save stressing the power supply from a rapid off/on cycle.
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Old 08-18-2014, 04:51 PM
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Routine forced shutdowns to a Windows computer will eventually corrupt things to the point that a system restore will be required. Even if that hasn't happened in months, it will happen eventually. If the offender is not capable of doing a system restore, they shouldn't be using this method to shut down the computer.

Most of us who are capable of doing a system restore would rather not have to do that.

It's sort of like taking a daily boat ride and poking a tiny hole in the bottom of the boat at the end of each ride. Eventually, the boat will take on so much water that you have to repair the holes before you can ride in it. It'd be better not to poke them in the first place!
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Old 08-18-2014, 08:04 PM
 
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Old 08-18-2014, 09:06 PM
 
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Every computer I know of will state the dangers when restarting after doing so.
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Old 08-18-2014, 10:39 PM
 
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If the software is locking up, there ALREADY is a problem somewhere. Of course the button will wear out eventually...

The O.S. should take care of itself. However, there can be problems like documents in the print buffer that get stuck there, hardware calls that get left in weird states, and all sorts of problems within poorly written programs. It is a point of pride with me that my ancient software can take all the sudden shutdowns you want to throw at it and it won't miss a beat or lose a bit of data when you reboot. That is unusual.

I would try to find what the cause of the lockup is rather than worry about the after effects.
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Old 08-19-2014, 12:16 PM
 
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The main ramification is that all their friends will now realize that they really are stupid.

That may sound like a smartass response, but logic loses out to peer pressure every time.
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Old 08-19-2014, 04:24 PM
 
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