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Old 12-14-2014, 10:59 AM
 
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This may be a silly question, I don't know, but in your experience/opinion are women very prevalent and welcome in, say, community college programs in programming, CIS, security? Rare? Hard on them?
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Old 12-14-2014, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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I don't think it's sexist. Women in general just seem to not be as interested in fields like computer programming as guys.
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Old 12-14-2014, 11:19 AM
 
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What I'm asking is, for those women who do go into this field, is the environment sexist? Are there usually problems because there are relatively fewer women.
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Old 12-14-2014, 11:52 AM
 
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I wouldn't imagine there would be any problems.

I majored in a male-dominated subject (physics) and work in an extremely male-dominated industry. The females that are in the field are treated just like everyone else. I don't see why it would be any different in CS.

The image of science/computer fields as a bunch of horny sexist nerds who can't interact with a woman is pretty much entirely fictional.
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Old 12-17-2014, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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I wouldn't imagine there would be any problems.

I majored in a male-dominated subject (physics) and work in an extremely male-dominated industry. The females that are in the field are treated just like everyone else. I don't see why it would be any different in CS.
Interesting that you say this, yet your name is Jason...

I might suggest, without being too PC, that due to "male privilege", you have no idea what kinds of things women might deal with in your place of work because you don't see it.

PS, I'm male too, but I think you should let an actual woman answer this question. Just as a white person (which I also am) can't understand what it's like to be a black person trying to hail a cab at night, a male in science can't really know what it's like to be a woman scientist or programmer around mostly men. The sexism does not have to be (and hopefully never is) covert, but often much more subtle.

I personally work in tech and see no different treatment of co-workers based on gender, but then I probably would not notice it if there were--that's what "privilege" is.

Regarding a programming class, I would suspect that more sexism would come from classmates than any institutionalized bias or from the instructor, but again, I'm not the one who would notice as much as a woman would.
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Old 12-18-2014, 11:03 PM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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Interesting that you say this, yet your name is Jason...
What has the name "Jason" have to do with anything he has said? Just curious, because the meaning of "Jason" in Greek is "healing."

I might suggest, without being too PC, that due to "male privilege", you have no idea what kinds of things women might deal with in your place of work because you don't see it.
The OP din't ask questions only to females in this public forum; did she?

PS, I'm male too, but I think you should let an actual woman answer this question. Just as a white person (which I also am) can't understand what it's like to be a black person trying to hail a cab at night, a male in science can't really know what it's like to be a woman scientist or programmer around mostly men. The sexism does not have to be (and hopefully never is) covert, but often much more subtle.
There are some places around the US that taxi drivers won't stop for anybody. Also, since the OP did not ask the question to "women" only, Jason has not done anything wrong. In fact his answers are straight forward and correct, at least in this forum. Perhaps the OP should have asked the question at a women's forum (?).
I personally work in tech and see no different treatment of co-workers based on gender, but then I probably would not notice it if there were--that's what "privilege" is.
Good points that reflect some of the things Jason said

Regarding a programming class, I would suspect that more sexism would come from classmates than any institutionalized bias or from the instructor, but again, I'm not the one who would notice as much as a woman would.
I imagine that a woman, or even a man, would notice "sexism" if that person goes about life trying to see only such.
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Old 12-19-2014, 11:16 PM
 
Location: Santa Rosa
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Programming is strange. I had about 1 women in each programming class of 30-40 student. But now that I work in the industry all my bosses are women.
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Old 12-21-2014, 11:58 PM
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Yes, schools usually employ big, mean, very violent, very hairy guys to scream at any and all women who dare to enter a programming course!

Geeesh, is this a serious question?????
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Old 12-31-2014, 09:57 AM
 
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It is a serious question. But if you're guilty of that kind of stupidity, yourself, and don't want to raise your awareness of it, it is natural that you would respond like that.
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Old 12-31-2014, 11:21 AM
 
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They really don't have any merit being sexist against women. Women played a large role in programming. The first computer programmer was a woman. The lead programmer on Apollo missions was a woman (later, director of software development).
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