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Old 12-27-2014, 10:09 AM
 
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I disagree. I currently have 3 Acer computers. When I set them up, I had to remove the trial McAfee and MS Office Trial. This year, I bought an HP laptop. When I got it set up, I had to remove the MS Office trial and McAfee. No real difference between the setup on the two brands. Of course, I left Java, Flash and Adobe Reader installed. I wanted those things.

I don't recall EVER seeing a new PC coming with a fully licensed copy of MS Office installed.
Was it an HP Elitebook?
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Old 12-27-2014, 10:13 AM
 
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Entirely incorrect. Both of the brands you mention come with their share of bloatware.
I exclusively buy ThinkPads for my PC laptops. It comes with Office Pre-installed, Norton Pre-installed and Evernote. Far less than all the crap that Acer laptops come with. Norton is the only one I would consider bloatware.
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Old 12-27-2014, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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I know that, but MS Works did a lot more than what you can do with WordPad.
MS Works is all over EBay for about $6--$7.00.
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Old 12-28-2014, 05:48 AM
 
Location: WV and Eastport, ME
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Was it an HP Elitebook?
No. I'm not certain, but I believe the Elitebook is a business computer rather than a consumer machine. Before I retired, my employer had issued an Elitebook for my use.
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Old 12-28-2014, 03:49 PM
 
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No. I'm not certain, but I believe the Elitebook is a business computer rather than a consumer machine. Before I retired, my employer had issued an Elitebook for my use.
The previous poster had specifically mentioned an HP Elitebook... most likely because it doesn't come with all the crap the HP consumer models come with.
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Old 12-28-2014, 04:20 PM
 
Location: WV and Eastport, ME
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The previous poster had specifically mentioned an HP Elitebook... most likely because it doesn't come with all the crap the HP consumer models come with.
I don't know what's on them when they come out of the box. What we got at work already had a pre-installed image on it for the state government with Windows Enterprise, Office, etc.

However, the HP consumer model I'm using right now had a trial of Office ad McAfee. That was all I stripped off when I bought it.
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Old 01-01-2015, 04:29 PM
 
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Go further back and when you bought a new desk top computer it came with a stack of CDs, each a specific software. You choose which software to install and use the CD to install that particular software. MS Office, a calendar/scheduling program, anti-virus, and various other software were available depending on the model and package. What was funny was some software was made to run in DOS.
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Old 01-01-2015, 06:53 PM
 
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What was funny was some software was made to run in DOS.
Why is that funny? That's what computers used to run with
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Old 01-04-2015, 11:50 AM
 
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It was a compromise that allowed computers to be sold for less than they normally would in the marketplace. The same thing is occurring on smartphones right now, particularly Android. In both cases, then and now, OEMs make money on both ends as they're paid by the consumers and the third party software manufacturers, and they use this to pay for the licenses for the OS, among other things.

MS Works was a crippled version of MS Office whose only intention was to upsell consumers on the later. It was never about convenience for the consumer. Now that there are viable third party alternatives to Office, and that (another crippled version) Office is available online via Web Apps there is no need to preinstall MS Works in this day and age.
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Old 01-04-2015, 03:17 PM
 
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It was a compromise that allowed computers to be sold for less than they normally would in the marketplace. The same thing is occurring on smartphones right now, particularly Android. In both cases, then and now, OEMs make money on both ends as they're paid by the consumers and the third party software manufacturers, and they use this to pay for the licenses for the OS, among other things.
The irony here is that the cheapest (in terms of hardware value) and most popular (in terms of cheap phones) Android phone, the Nexus 5, had no bloatware.
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MS Works was a crippled version of MS Office whose only intention was to upsell consumers on the later. It was never about convenience for the consumer. Now that there are viable third party alternatives to Office, and that (another crippled version) Office is available online via Web Apps there is no need to preinstall MS Works in this day and age.
MS Works was not a crippled version of MS Office. It was a stand-alone product with a completely different code base. It was intended to be a low end Office for laptops (which at the time didn't have the horsepower to run Office), but it never really got there. As laptops became more powerful, MS Works became a popular product on its own side-by-side MS Office.

What you're talking about, appears to be MS Office Starter. That product was used to upsell Office.
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