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Old 01-03-2015, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Moving towards ? Who knows that, this is technology. 5 years ago Ruby on Rails was all the hype, yet Java is still king. .NET costs too much in license fees. With programming the community of developers can trump all hence why Java, C, C++, Perl and PHP are so prevelant.

Go could be the next big thing, please anticipate away... But you don't know... It's a SWAG.
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Old 01-03-2015, 03:09 PM
 
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If you want to be an entry level programmer to be able to land a job, you will need to focus on one (or a handful) of technologies/languages and learn them well. As a programmer, it's better to know one language well, than know a few, but not really well.

So start out by picking a language (in addition to HTML/CSS). JavaScript is most likely the best one to choose. It's used on the frontend (in the web browser) as well as in the backend (on the server), and is growing rapidly right now.
Okay, those three languages sound good. What can I do to learn them in depth after I finish the basic stuff? How long should this take me if I practice every day? Could you recommend any books or, preferably free, websites or other resources?
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Old 01-03-2015, 03:38 PM
 
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Okay, those three languages sound good. What can I do to learn them in depth after I finish the basic stuff? How long should this take me if I practice every day? Could you recommend any books or, preferably free, websites or other resources?
https://www.thenewboston.com/videos.php
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Old 01-03-2015, 03:41 PM
 
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Moving towards ? Who knows that, this is technology. 5 years ago Ruby on Rails was all the hype, yet Java is still king. .NET costs too much in license fees. With programming the community of developers can trump all hence why Java, C, C++, Perl and PHP are so prevelant.

Go could be the next big thing, please anticipate away... But you don't know... It's a SWAG.
Moving towards, as in this companies have chosen to convert their big applications over. There's a very very large community of JavaScript developers. JavaScript isn't a new language by any means.
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Old 01-03-2015, 03:49 PM
 
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Moving towards, as in this companies have chosen to convert their big applications over. There's a very very large community of JavaScript developers. JavaScript isn't a new language by any means.
I was referring to the Go Web Framework.

I work in Javascript every day on the server-side doing Cloud Automation using vCO : vRealize Orchestrator (vCenter Orchestrator): Server Provisioning | United States... Javascript is very powerful, but I don't think it will ever be as powerful on the server (no matter what the framework) as WebLogic or WebSphere built in Java. Strongly typed languages are best for software engineering historically. The fact that I can use var i = String, Integer, Array etc. in Javascript will always limit it.

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Old 01-03-2015, 03:51 PM
 
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I was referring to the Go Web Framework.

I work in Javascript every day on the server-side doing Cloud Automation using vCO : vRealize Orchestrator (vCenter Orchestrator): Server Provisioning | United States... Javascript is very powerful, but I don't think it will ever be as powerful on the server (no matter what the framework) as WebLogic or Websphere built in Java.
Powerful? Probably not. But popular for web applications? Absolutely.
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Old 01-03-2015, 03:57 PM
 
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Powerful? Probably not. But popular for web applications? Absolutely.
Ok but the original statement was:

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I couldn't agree more. Stick to HTML/CSS/JavaScript for the browser. Use JavaScript on the server.

Look into the industry and see what they are using. Most tech companies won't be using PHP, Java, etc. .Net has popularity in the enterprise world. JavaScript and Go are the current languages.

That is FALSE. Most tech companies want power ie. scaling, clustering, messaging, caching..etc. You said it yourself:

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Facebook: PHP -> JavaScript
Dow Jones: Java -> JavaScript (some .Net)
Google: Java/C++/Python -> Go
eBay: Perl/Java/.Net -> JavaScript
LinkedIn: Java -> JavaScript
PayPal: Java -> JavaScript
Yahoo: PHP/C++ -> JavaScript

Java has a good hold on scaling web applications.
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Old 01-03-2015, 04:21 PM
 
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Ok but the original statement was:




That is FALSE. Most tech companies want power ie. scaling, clustering, messaging, caching..etc. You said it yourself:
JavaScript applications scale well... The landscape has changed. You no longer need to scale on a single box (which is where Java was really good). You can now scale horizontally across multiple boxes. JavaScript and Go, both offer scaling, clustering, messaging and caching.
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Old 01-03-2015, 04:31 PM
 
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JavaScript applications scale well... The landscape has changed. You no longer need to scale on a single box (which is where Java was really good). You can now scale horizontally across multiple boxes. JavaScript and Go, both offer scaling, clustering, messaging and caching.
I scale weblogic horizontally across multiple virtual machines and hybrid clouds.
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Old 01-03-2015, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Greater NYC, USA
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I am light on JavaScript, I can do a mean copy and paste to JQuey. Spent like 3 hours working with it this week. I do .Net and I do SQL Server. From time to time have seen Oracle and Sybase, but mostly SQL Server.


There is a market for everything that is popular. In my market the 2 competitors are Java and Microsoft. I consider those as main programming languages.

I know some-one that knows Java, but prefers PHP, he says he gets better jobs with PHP.

Technology changes over the years, yet the ability to work with relational databases is always an asset to you.
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