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Old 02-01-2015, 12:16 AM
 
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Lord; the I know better than you games that start from such a simple question when it come to computers is pretty crazy.
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Old 02-01-2015, 12:23 AM
 
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Few, if any, computers came with Acrobat preinstalled.
Some did come with Acrobat installed... but you are correct that it is probably a small number of models.

When the ThinkPad x120e first came out, it came with Acrobat preinstalled, but they gave you the full disc as well (which was unique, even for 2011).
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Old 02-01-2015, 04:01 AM
 
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That's great if you're selling the PC to another person. But you cannot use a system builder's copy of Windows 7 on a PC that you own for personal use. In that case, you are required to purchase a retail copy.

eh I bought it from stores for myself legally. and I did it when I didn't feel like paying $600 for win7. only difference is I don't get that MS "support" for it. The cd and cd key never came in some fancy MS box either. Since technically im building my system for myself, who's to say other wise?
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Old 02-01-2015, 04:38 AM
 
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eh I bought it from stores for myself legally. and I did it when I didn't feel like paying $600 for win7. only difference is I don't get that MS "support" for it. The cd and cd key never came in some fancy MS box either. Since technically im building my system for myself, who's to say other wise?
Whether you feel that you purchased it legally or not, doesn't matter. The license does not allow for you to install a system builder's copy of Windows 7 on a computer you are building for yourself. You are using the software illegally and you are doing so knowingly.

You are required to purchase and use a retail copy of the software.
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Old 02-01-2015, 03:55 PM
 
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Read this article in full and get a laugh like I did. It's been common knowledge for years that the MS licensing for system builder software is a screwed up ambiguous mess, but a lot of people don't realize how bad it is.

Is it OK to use OEM Windows on your own PC? Don't ask Microsoft | ZDNet
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Old 02-01-2015, 04:16 PM
 
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Whether you feel that you purchased it legally or not, doesn't matter. The license does not allow for you to install a system builder's copy of Windows 7 on a computer you are building for yourself. You are using the software illegally and you are doing so knowingly.

You are required to purchase and use a retail copy of the software.
ok, then ill sell my pc to my brother for $1 and hen rebuy it for $1. there, transaction done.
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Old 02-01-2015, 04:28 PM
 
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Interesting that I thought of doing that as well.
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Old 02-06-2015, 04:34 PM
 
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Lord; the I know better than you games that start from such a simple question when it come to computers is pretty crazy.
Indeed...but some of us are OK with being wrong sometimes. Learning never stops, if it did then why keep breathing, eh? No fun knowing it all.


As for the OEM thing. Yeah, I know. I raised an eyebrow at the "not for personal use" thing. I mean...OK, it's not supported by MS I get it.

But if I install it on my own computer that I built?

Hey what if I build a computer and give it to a friend? Is it only OK if money is exchanged?

The whole thing is silly. As long as you know and accept that there will be NO SUPPORT from MS for this product, then I really don't see the big deal. There are ways, you know, that sellers of wholesale things, intended only for business use, keep regular retail folks out. If they didn't want ordinary Joes to be able to use an OEM copy of Windows on a machine, they wouldn't be selling it on every retail webstore site imaginable. They might require some validation of you actually buying for business purposes, and not personal purposes. There are actually sellers of certain hair products that are only for salons, that will require you to actually be from a business to buy the product at the wholesale price, or at all. Seriously.

At least, according to that article, there was some point where MS said it was OK as long as you built your own computer, regardless of who the end user was supposed to be. As indicated in their quotes of the MS forums, functionally if you want to buy an OEM copy and use it, nothing and no one is really going to stop you.
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Old 02-06-2015, 04:46 PM
 
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I don't think Microsoft cares. When have they ever gone after anyone for using an OEM System builder copy?
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Old 02-07-2015, 01:09 AM
 
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U can purchase its copy through online or from any manufacture.
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