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Old 06-20-2016, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Northwest Indiana
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Computer hardware is faster then ever and even cheap computers come with 8 gigs of RAM now a days. But they sure don't seem faster then the computers of the year 2000 or so.

Windows 95 and the Mac system 9 seem so snappy compared with today's Windows and Mac OS's. Why is that? Is it the programming environment most programers use? Or is it due to the huge size of them. Or do programmers not really try for code that runs fast like they had to back in the 1980's when 1 mb of ram was alot?

Not looking to start a war between OS's, as they all seem slow and in need of improvement.
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Old 06-20-2016, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Old 06-20-2016, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Whittier
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Computers (and OSes) are faster today in all respects.

Windows 10 is pretty snappy, Ubuntu or other versions of Linux are very fast as well. OSx is plenty fast too.

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The appearance of OS slowdown can be due to A LOT of factors. The amount of RAM programs use, quality of Internet, the prevalence of malware, filled hard drive, user file bloat and/or third party programs installed by retailers.

A new computer with 8 gigs, and an SSD running a fresh Windows 10 install is smooth.
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Old 06-20-2016, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Wandering.
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I've been building and working on computers since the 3.1 days, have used every version of Windows since 3.1 on a daily basis, and I've never had a replacement computer be slower than the one it replaced.

If you are building / buying with low end CPUs, or running older hardware on the newer OSes then that may be a problem, but current OSes with current mid range hardware should be faster than the prior generation of the same.

I have clients that insist on running old crap with current OSes and the results are less than spectacular.
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Old 06-20-2016, 04:31 PM
 
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Consuming Xanax/Prozac or puffing the magic dragon could also improve your computer's speed!
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Old 06-21-2016, 02:23 PM
 
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I thinks its mostly nostalgia, I recently have come across a bunch of win98 computers and its amazing how slow they are, they can barely run even a simple program like audacity.
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Old 06-28-2016, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Vienna, Austria
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Default The powerful hardware and non-optimized tasks

The author of the topic is right ... for 50%. Yes, today's programmers pay less attention for program's optimization. Let's analyze sizes of executable files. Now you can easily find many *.exe in your PC with size 2Mb and more. Some years ago such size of *.exe was just nonsense! The standard was 50kb, 100kb, no more than 1-1,5Mb! The professional programmer had to make a little *.exe and to put other resources into *.dll etc. And what about the complete size of software package? Why did a program of 1998 year take 50Mb of hard disk and the same program of 2010 year do 2500Mb? Yes, the program has become more complex, but not at 50 fold!

Of course, always they may say to a user: "You have to buy a new computer to use our new software". But often it means only more bytes, more gigahertz, more pixels... This is the extensive growth and no more.

If someone wants his PC to work quick he had to clean the hard disk from unused programs and files. The less shortcuts on the desktop the quicker runs your PC! Very useful is to control the processes with Windows task manager stopping different unwanted programs like updates . To turn off antivirus for a while can accelerate the PC too but we should do it carefully.
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Old 06-30-2016, 10:19 AM
 
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A big reason for slow running, and especially slow bootup, is too much crap automatically loading. If you have win 10, use the startup page of the task manager. More sophisticated users could download autoruns from Microsoft. You'd be amazed at how much unnecessary stuff loads on startup, especially so called "helper" programs that just make some things load faster, especially stuff you never use. All this stuff takes up memory. If you are short on memory, this leads to "paging" where memory is swapped to your hard drive, which really slows things down.
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Old 06-30-2016, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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The author of the topic is right ... for 50%.
No. Not really. Any properly maintained and up-kept computer today will smoke any Win 95 computer in every way. No question.

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If someone wants his PC to work quick he had to clean the hard disk from unused programs and files. The less shortcuts on the desktop the quicker runs your PC! Very useful is to control the processes with Windows task manager stopping different unwanted programs like updates . To turn off antivirus for a while can accelerate the PC too but we should do it carefully.[/quote]

Shortcuts on a Desktop do not slow a PC down. Niether does AV
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Old 06-30-2016, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Keller, TX
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My Windows 10, 950 Pro SSD, 6700K, 32 GBs DDR4, 980Ti machine that I've optimized a lot is the fastest thing I've ever used.
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