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Old 01-07-2017, 10:05 AM
 
Location: NNJ
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Does anyone has a System76 laptop? I am a software developer with a CentOS (Ubuntu is fine) based environment for work and some personal. I am considering the 17 inch Oryx Pro fully optioned. Java, eclipse, spring framework, docker, tomcat, application server, virtual box.

What has been your experience? Build? Battery life? etc...

Current machine is an aged Macbook pro but I'm not liking the specs on the latest at the cost.
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Old 01-07-2017, 11:35 AM
 
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they seem highly rated:
Linux Desktop/Laptop Vendor of the Year
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Old 01-08-2017, 09:59 AM
 
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Look for an Apple refurb - 2015 2.8 15" quad core, 16GB, 512GB, discrete graphics under $2300 right now plus you can add AppleCare. The Oryx looks great if it will not get moved much - 6 pounds plus 2 pound power brick, 2 hour battery life. But it is an awesome gaming laptop...note that "fully optioned" is more than $6000...
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Old 01-08-2017, 11:28 AM
 
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Look for an Apple refurb - 2015 2.8 15" quad core, 16GB, 512GB, discrete graphics under $2300 right now plus you can add AppleCare. The Oryx looks great if it will not get moved much - 6 pounds plus 2 pound power brick, 2 hour battery life. But it is an awesome gaming laptop...note that "fully optioned" is more than $6000...
The problem I have with Apple is none of their laptops can be configured for more than 16GB. Up until now, I've been mostly buying mac laptops.. a bit disappointed in Apple in recent times.

"Fully optioned" may have been an exaggeration on my part.

17 inch IPS
8GB GTX 1070
3.5Ghz i7-6700HQ (quad-core)
64GB Dual Channel DDR4
1TB SSD 2600MB/s write / 1600MB/s read
1TB 7200

$3340.

I don't need the optional 8TB of SSD which adds more than $3000 to the pricetag. 1TB should be more than enough for primary storage and the additional 1TB of "slower" storage would be ok for testing and such.


I'm ok with the size. I have a macbook pro and air that I'm using for personal use. I may sell one or the other.. not decided.


I am a bit concerned about build and reliability (specs look great on paper). System76 being a small "boutique" manufacturer of laptops doesn't really have any retail for me to examine them in person nor a lot of users to put up reviews.

I was also considering the Dell Developer Edition XPS13 but I'd find that screen too small for long term work use.
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Old 01-08-2017, 11:03 PM
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It's apparently pretty nice if you don't mind dreadful battery life (sacrifices have to be made if you really need a lot of power) and the enormous power brick.

According to this review it seems to be pretty well made and not too flexible even though it's plastic and huge.
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Old 01-26-2017, 04:26 AM
 
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I see your point of view, as for me 13" too small for coding but 17" is also not comfortable. The best screen size that works for me is 15".
And I think that macs are overrated in this time, you can save your money and buy a more stable machine.
What's about SSD? I put it on my current laptop and believe that it is necessary today for a developer. With cloud storages and external drives it's so important to have 1tb hard disk as for me.
Did you think about HP? I have it at work and works pretty well for me: HP 15-ay013nr.
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Old 01-26-2017, 07:25 AM
 
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What are you doing that you need 64GB of RAM? Landing the space shuttle? Running the NYSE?
No...neither of those would need that much. I doubt you are going to give me a good reason for 64GB because there's simply no scenario where you need that much.

And what's wrong with a boutique company? I think I'd rather buy from the little guy then someone like Dell. The little guy is going to try harder to keep your business, I bet.
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Old 01-26-2017, 08:38 AM
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What are you doing that you need 64GB of RAM? Landing the space shuttle? Running the NYSE?
No...neither of those would need that much. I doubt you are going to give me a good reason for 64GB because there's simply no scenario where you need that much.

And what's wrong with a boutique company? I think I'd rather buy from the little guy then someone like Dell. The little guy is going to try harder to keep your business, I bet.
Virtual machines can eat up a ton of RAM. The developer tools he mentioned are also notoriously piggish.

We're living in a era when just browsing the web can chew through a fairly highly specced system.
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Old 01-26-2017, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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Virtual machines can eat up a ton of RAM. The developer tools he mentioned are also notoriously piggish.

We're living in a era when just browsing the web can chew through a fairly highly specced system.
Jason you know you are seriously one of my favorite posters here. We agree on just about everything.
But: BS BUDDY! LOL
Nothing on the interwebs can chew through my high end 16GB system. Nothing! MWAHAHAHA!
I hope you were exaggerating for effect.

Sys Req's:
Docker 2GB
TomCat (Old version, but still) 2GB recommend on a Windows system, 1GB on a Linux system
Eclipse 512MB min, 1 GB recommended
Spring, requires whatever Java version req's you are using. Java req's are low.
(I honestly didn't expect those to be THAT low... wow! Low, yes...not that low)

Vitrual Box, ok yes this totally depends on the number of VM's. But at 4GB per... that's a LOT of VM's.

I don't care how much RAM you get, OP, I just hate to see people get "as much as I possibly can" and only wind up using LESS then half.
Gamers think 16GB is the minimum for gaming, and it's not. ANY modern game today with a good GPU runs GREAT with only 8GB.
As we always say on the gaming site I hang out on, the only people who REALLY need even 16GB or more are graphics design people and people doing CGI and 3D modeling.
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Old 01-26-2017, 03:03 PM
 
Location: NNJ
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Did you think about HP? I have it at work and works pretty well for me: HP 15-ay013nr.
Thanks for the recommendation. I have a long history and personal reasons for not support HP products (work related) but perhaps I could put that aside and take a look at your recommendation. Are you running linux on it?
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