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Old 02-15-2018, 09:59 AM
 
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To a lot of Americans government is always the solution; not for me.
When you are dealing with essential services that involve monopolies it's a different ballgame. I'll offer you another example. Here in PA they deregulated the electric industry, I can choose to buy power from many different companies that generate electric. That is only possible because the power distributor is required to carry the power of these other companies. PA electric bills are itemized and the rate the distributor charges for distribution is always the same regardless of who is producing the power.

This is about as close as example you will get to NN you can find.
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Old 02-15-2018, 10:03 AM
 
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I didn't have any trouble with the Internet before 2015, so I imagine that it will be the same in the future.
I'm not sure if you quite understand but the internet you have been using for the past 20+ years has operated under the NN principle for the most part. When it hasn't the FCC has taken action.

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I am the consumer. If I don't like what my ISP does, then I choose another ISP. It's as simple as that.
Many people do not and will never have that choice.
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Old 02-15-2018, 11:39 AM
 
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Is this connected? This morning, when I tried to open my Firefox browser, I had a large page from Spectrum telling me to acceot and agree to their terms. It said if I click Continue, I accept their terms about privacy policy. Note those last two words. Important because I telephoned and asked what that was. She said 'oh, that's just an agreement not to do anything illegal, anything you are not supposed to do on a computer. That reply seems to contradict the "privacy policy" statement.

I was then told to click Continue to read more. With her on the phone, I clicked Continue, but I got nothing more. I was simply back on my browser.

Of course, I do not know what I'll find when I shut down soon and then re-boot later this morning.

Does all this seem to relate to what others here are experiencing? Thank you.
It's possible. Previously, ISP's were prohibited from selling activity associated with you. They could sell the generic search pattern of their customers as a whole, or in a a zip code, but they were prohibited from selling information connected to you specifically. Now, under the revised regulations, they are free to sell your activity by your account to whomever pays them.

Example, if you searched for genital warts information, they previously could only group that searched as something a customer of theirs searched. But, it could not be tagged to you, your account, name, address, I address, nothing. Under the changes, they can sell your name, address and searches. So a company manufacturing crotch cream can ask for everyone who searched anything related to genital nasties and market to you specifically.

If your ISP was previously a telecommunications service, their previous privacy policy would say they are prohibited by federal regulations from disclosing your specific search history. Under the changes, they are free to do so and a change to their privacy policy would be needed. You really need to find the actual policy and read it. Unfortunately, way too may people accept these privacy policy or terms and conditions as if its all good without ever reading them.

One last scary factor, under the change, the information service is not even required to offer an opt out option. So that make sit even more important to understand. Unfortunately, way too much of the marketing was focused on Net Neutrality with too many stupid people never reading how Net Neutrality was being eliminated.
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Old 02-15-2018, 11:44 AM
 
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Thank you, Rabrrita. A man at B&N explained more of it. We just don't pay attention until it hits directly on us personally. I'll wager they have stayed up nights looking for all the possibility outs since NN died.
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Old 02-15-2018, 07:23 PM
 
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I've had Charter threaten to cut off service for torrenting years ago.
haha. i Get them about once every other month for past 4 years and havent done squat... love they even give you the list of movies and songs you downloaded as a reminder to yourself.. now were on my PC did i put them. Like having your own movie list without knowing what you got.
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Old 02-25-2018, 09:07 PM
 
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haha. i Get them about once every other month for past 4 years and havent done squat... love they even give you the list of movies and songs you downloaded as a reminder to yourself.. now were on my PC did i put them. Like having your own movie list without knowing what you got.
You need a VPN.. much cheaper than having the deal with the paranoia or buying those movies outright.
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