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Old 10-05-2018, 06:53 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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Originally Posted by TRex2 View Post
Wow. arguing over the price of a Latte?
The argument should be over the need to use VPN or otherwise avoid public WiFi hot spots.

Otherwise it's Chevy vs. Ford.

I enjoy being able to use hotel WiFi but I always use my VPN condom in those places. (This is for my laptop.) I have sufficient confidence that my cellular data on my cellphone and tablet are good enough. (I do have the VPN apps on them if I want to use them.)

BTW IMO you need a financial protection service such as LifeLock too. You need that if your digital protection fails.

But if your home WiFi is set up properly that should be sufficient for home use.
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Old 10-06-2018, 06:51 AM
 
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I told you people, ibVPN has deals throughout the year. A sale isn't a sale if it's all year 'round. You can easily get 50% off the list price if you wait for the deals. And remember that not all VPNs are equal.

I hope at least my technical discussion helped some of you. I've found that almost nobody knows the proper use of VPNs. I gave you everything I've got. You decide if you need a VPN or not, and how to use it.

And remember, if you are browsing using a public WiFi you absolutely MUST use a VPN. (I prefer to not use public WiFi and trust my cellular data much more.)
NordVPN offers deals at times as well. Why would you care?
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Old 10-06-2018, 10:07 AM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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... I have sufficient confidence that my cellular data on my cellphone and tablet are good enough. (I do have the VPN apps on them if I want to use them.)
True, today. There is a hardware device that can intercept cellular data, but they are extremely rare. That may change in the future, so keep your ears open.

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BTW IMO you need a financial protection service such as LifeLock too. You need that if your digital protection fails.
The three times in my life that my security failed, it failed in the "distant end" office, where I had no control, so I concur that you need financial protection, although LifeLock isn't the only game in town.

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But if your home WiFi is set up properly that should be sufficient for home use.
Again, it should be, as long as you have fairly modern WiFi equipment and, as you said, set it up properly.
(Some of the older equipment has serious security problems.)
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Old 10-06-2018, 11:32 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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True, today. There is a hardware device that can intercept cellular data, but they are extremely rare. That may change in the future, so keep your ears open.

The three times in my life that my security failed, it failed in the "distant end" office, where I had no control, so I concur that you need financial protection, although LifeLock isn't the only game in town.

Again, it should be, as long as you have fairly modern WiFi equipment and, as you said, set it up properly.
(Some of the older equipment has serious security problems.)
Good comments!

Let's all keep up with security and attacks on the cellular data system. You're right that safe today does not mean safe tomorrow.

I have LifeLock mainly for the insurance. I haven't made full use of their other features but intend to participate more in the near future. I have a lot of junk on my credit report (paid off mortgages on my rental houses) and wouldn't know that if not for LL. I'm going to ask them Monday how to get rid of that junk.

Secure your router using a protocol such as WPA2-Personal. If nothing else, at least a neighbor won't get a free ride on your dime. My router has a firewalled second hot spot (still passworded) that I can give visitors, they won't be able to access my internal network.

Everybody should check their WiFi router right now and make certain it is secured by one of the available protocols, and not unsecured and wide open. If that, it's just as insecure as a public WiFi.
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Old 10-08-2018, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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Most routers walk you through setting a password when you configure it using WPA2. Very few people have open networks.
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Old 10-08-2018, 10:02 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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Most routers walk you through setting a password when you configure it using WPA2. Very few people have open networks.
This is truth. WiFi manufacturers were blamed about so many open WiFi routers because originally they were shipped unsecured with a warning in the instruction manual to secure it. Many of the less savvy plugged in their routers and if it worked they didn't even read the manual. In a move towards a more secure public they've changed the set-up so that you have to intentionally opt out of encryption to have an insecure WiFi. I haven't bought one lately so I don't know exactly how they changed but the manufacturers are herding unsophisticated owner into securing their routers. I have no statistics but I can receive a lot of WiFi signals from up in the hills overlooking many lower elevation houses and the only insecure devices I see on my status page are things like WiFi printers, I've never seen a unsecured router from my home in the last 4-5 years.

In the past even non-hackers were known to simply get a free ride on their neighbors' insecure WiFi. That's the best case. The worst case is somebody using your connection for child porn or other illicit activities, and the IP address traces to the owner of the insecure router.
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Old 10-23-2018, 06:42 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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I totally agree with previous responses! This guy is strongly mistaken because having a standard connection to the Internet via wi-fi doesn't mean that you automatically use VPN too. In order to use it you need to install at least a special plugin in your browser.
Actually you don't. A good VPN client will redirect browser requests to the VPN server.
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Old 10-24-2018, 03:22 AM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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I think MotifSky means that if you don't have a VPN client, then you will at least need a plug in to your browser. IIRC, there is at least one browser or plug in that will utilize a TOR connection without having a paid VPN subscription or the full TOR browser.
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