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Old 04-28-2009, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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I say we boycott all pre-built computer companies like Dell, HP, etc. This has been on my mind forever now and I'm just sick of it.

Microsoft claims Vista will run on 512mb of RAM and such, but are you ****ing serious. I've went out and bought Vista Ultimate x64 just to prove that you can't do **** on 512mb of RAM. I installed Vista on an older PC that had 512mb of RAM and it ran literally slower than my ****ing Windows 98 crap PC. I then installed 1gb of RAM and tried it out. A little faster, but still it's crap. I've come to the conclusion that you need at least 2gb of RAM to actually do anythign productive on Vista.

Now, about these so called computer companies. Why the **** do you even install Vista on a 1gb of RAM system and on top of that install all that bloatware crap. No one uses ****en Norton or AOL anymore as they're crap and if you do use them, you're asking to be hacked. I would so love it if they could ****en get a brain and put at least 2gb or more of RAM in their systems and get rid of some of the bloatware they install. People literally spend an hour or more uninstalling that crap when they buy the computer because it's so slow -_-. It drives me ****ing crazy.

Anyone with half a brain can build their own computer. For example, I built my current computer for $1200 and it would of literally cost me about $200 or more if I had bought it from a company like HP or Dell. That's because when you buy the parts themselves you can look for deals and get more for your money.

Now, I've talked to both Dell and HP on their live chat systems and have cursed them out for providing crap hardware, crap bloatware installation, etc, etc, etc. I need more people to help me do it. Just harass the **** out of them and maybe they'll get it through their thick skulls, not brains, but skull.

Now, here's my current computer just for the hell of it.

Intel C2D E8400 @ 3ghz Overclocked to 4.16ghz
G.Skill DDR2 1333 4x 2gb of RAM
nVidia GeForce GTX260 Core 216 896mb Graphics
ASUS P5Q SE PLUS x58 ATX Motherboard
Western Digital Caviar Black 1tb 7200rpm 32mb cache x1
Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm 32mb cache 750gb x1
Western Digital Elements 500gb 7200rpm external x1
Antec 300 Black Steel Case

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Old 04-28-2009, 11:51 AM
 
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You go man!
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Old 04-28-2009, 11:53 AM
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IMO, most of the people who value price over convenience and understand the process to build one already are boycotting pre-built computers.
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Old 04-28-2009, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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I haven't bought a pre-built computer in years and I'm just trying to get more people on board. I mean ANYONE with half a brain can build a computer, so why don't they -_-
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Old 04-28-2009, 12:15 PM
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I haven't bought a pre-built computer in years and I'm just trying to get more people on board. I mean ANYONE with half a brain can build a computer, so why don't they -_-
Sales of desktop machines are losing ground to notebooks and netbooks. The latter two can't be built by consumers and they are what most consumers are buying now.

Most of my computers are Macs and there is no (legal) way to build one of those.
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Old 04-28-2009, 12:19 PM
 
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Dell, etc. are not the ones dictating that only Vista is available on new PC's, that is Microsoft's marketing tactic.
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Old 04-28-2009, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Consumers can build laptops and netbooks if they wanted to. My next build will probably be a new notebook instead of a desktop pc.

I'm not talking about only Vista being available for new PCs. I'm talking about how they could put more memory and such in them so they're actually usable. 1gb of RAM is NOT ENOUGH for even the average person to use Vista. The only reason my notebook has it was because I got it as a grad gift and I sent it back to HP b/c of overheating issues, etc and they sent this 1gb of RAM POS with Vista on it. Needless to say I've upgraded to 2gb of RAM and installed linux on it. This was back when I was just getting into computer hardware.
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Old 04-28-2009, 01:31 PM
 
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Consumers can build laptops and netbooks if they wanted to. My next build will probably be a new notebook instead of a desktop pc.
Yes, you can, I can, but 90%+ of consumers don't have a clue, hell they don't even suspect anything
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Old 04-28-2009, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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I don't have a problem with most brand name systems. I don't buy them for myself (laptops excepted), but I would and do recommend them to friends and family.

My main complaint with the big brands was that they used proprietary hardware, so if you wanted to upgrade something, you HAD to buy/use their stuff. Now, you can upgrade using standard, off-the-shelf hardware. They also have good warranties, often with free shipping both ways, reasonable support (I've heard the horror stories, but have usually received good service) and the prices can be quite good.

I still build my own, but you're wrong if you think that "anyone with half a brain" can do it. My mom has at least half a brain (and you better not say otherwise!), but there's no way she could build a system. People have strengths in different areas. Some do well with computer hardware. Most don't. That doesn't mean that they have less than "half a brain", though.
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Old 04-28-2009, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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Hardware assembly is the easy part.

NEARLY anyone can build a very functional machine. I'm proof of that.

Making software function efficiently, from BIOS through OS and apps and all settings, is the confusing part.

I am considering building a couple new desktop machines for Windows 7, and the pain in the butt of handling software is much more daunting than selection and assembly of hardware.
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