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Old 11-11-2009, 11:05 PM
 
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Default HDMI cables

Ok so whats the truth about HDMI cables. I read and hear about not falling for these expensive cables and how the higher gigabite cables provide a better picture and all of that. I went to best buy today and basically they said for the money that you invest in a tv, dont skimp on a cheap cable. The information he told me about the cables seemed logical, but I wanted to hear it from a techie and not a salesman.

I have a 1080p 60hz LCD and a standard blueray player. I dont watch sports or play games. Just watch regular tv and movies. What do I need to give me a fantastic picture that I will be happy with.

Also they offered to claibrate the tv for 200 bucks. He told me that they hook up a computer to the tv and basicly adjust it internally. Can't a THX disc work just fine?

Thanks for the input.

Steve
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Old 11-12-2009, 03:33 AM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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Don't listen to Best Buy. They're just trying to sell you something for as much money as possible.
Go here:
CablesforLess
They've got three grades of HDMI cables and an explanation on what the difference is and when you need it.
Great company, great prices. I've been buying cables from them for years.
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Old 11-12-2009, 05:18 AM
 
Location: NH
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200 bucks to adjust it internally? First I doubt there's anyone at best buy qualified to adjust a TV from the inside, second there's no way in H#$@ that I'd want anyone from best buy muckin around inside my brand new TV.

That service has rip off all over it.
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Old 11-12-2009, 06:08 AM
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Calibration is not physically internal to the TV.
It is adjustment of the settings.
LCD TV Calibration: Learn to Calibrate your LCD Television

I am somewhat colorblind, and can REALLY screw up settings on a TV.
So, we paid Best Buy to calibrate our plasma TV.
While I have second thoughts about the value at $200, it did improve the picture, and greatly lowered the heat radiating from the screen.
I assume heat is wasted energy/$$, and justify the calibration from the efficiency perspective.
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Old 11-12-2009, 06:44 AM
 
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You can use a Pixar Films DVD. They have the calibration tools included.

This might help. Please help calibrate my new Samsung 46" LN46A630 - AVS Forum
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Old 11-12-2009, 08:31 AM
 
Location: NH
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Originally Posted by MikeJaquish View Post
Calibration is not physically internal to the TV.
It is adjustment of the settings.
LCD TV Calibration: Learn to Calibrate your LCD Television

I am somewhat colorblind, and can REALLY screw up settings on a TV.
So, we paid Best Buy to calibrate our plasma TV.
While I have second thoughts about the value at $200, it did improve the picture, and greatly lowered the heat radiating from the screen.
I assume heat is wasted energy/$$, and justify the calibration from the efficiency perspective.
Much of that heat is from the brightness being set at maximum out of the box which is usually way too high, I run mine around 50%.

That $200 probably got your TV about 5 minutes of attention from the best buy employees.
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Old 11-12-2009, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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Buy HDMI cables from www.monoprice.com. Do not succumb to the Worst Buy sales guy. The markup on "premium" cables is unbelievable. That's why they push them so much.

A TV calibration done by a person certified by the Imaging Science Foundation (ISF) is worth it for a high quality TV. They access service menus and settings not normally available. They also use test instruments that measure the light output of the panel. If the Worst Buy certification is an ISF certification - go for it.

Spend $5 on the cable instead of $100 and use it on the calibration.
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Old 11-12-2009, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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I'd do a disc calibration. Everybody's eyes and room lighting are different, so you'll need to tinker with the numbers a bit for your own viewing pleasure.
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Old 11-12-2009, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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I have a BA in audio/video production and have worked on numerous films and let me tell you firsthand, those premium cables are a waste of money, especially digital cables like HDMI. The way an HDMI cable works is it sends a digital signal (i.e. 1's and 0's) to your television to be decoded. Unless you're experiencing picture or sound breakup while watching movies (most likely a result of a faulty cable or an insufficent gauge), your picture isn't going to get any better by upgrading to Monster Cable. Sending 1's and 0's through a luxury cable doesnt make them anything better than 1's and 0's going through a budget cable from Radio Shack. It's all the same in the end.

We had a class in college and one day and the topic was on premium cables and their myths. The professor set up two identical TV's with the identical DVD's and DVD players. One had plain jane cables and the other had Monster premium cables that cost about $50 more. The picture and sound looked exactly the same.

The vast majority of recording and sound design studios don't bother with those so you shouldnt either.

Edit- I just read your original post again and couldn't figure out if an HDMI cable is worth using or if a premium HDMI cable is worth investing in. Yes, get an HDMI cable but get the chapest one available.

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Old 11-12-2009, 05:34 PM
 
Location: The Raider Nation._ Our band kicks brass
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[quote=Adric;11601701]I have a BA in audio/video production and have worked on numerous films and let me tell you firsthand, those premium cables are a waste of money, especially digital cables like HDMI. The way an HDMI cable works is it sends a digital signal (i.e. 1's and 0's) to your television to be decoded. Unless you're experiencing picture or sound breakup while watching movies (most likely a result of a faulty cable or an insufficent gauge), your picture isn't going to get any better by upgrading to Monster Cable. Sending 1's and 0's through a luxury cable doesnt make them anything better than 1's and 0's going through a budget cable from Radio Shack. It's all the same in the end.


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I got a real chuckle from that other board. There is a guy that signs his posts with, "There are 10 kinds of people in the world. Those that understand binary, and those that don't."
Your post just reminded me of his signature.
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