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Old 10-05-2010, 11:16 AM
 
Location: In a house
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LOL I have to admit, this is pretty funny.


YouTube - Dick Blumenthal Stumped On How To Create A Job

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Classic! His idea of how to create jobs is to spend taxpayer money on companies that arent showing a profit. What a wonderful investment stratagy. I wonder if thats what he does with his own money.

What we need are big cutbacks anywhere we can get them so we can lower the tax burden on EVERYBODY. The waste in govt is simply disgusting and I'd vote for a slug before I voted for another Democrat in CT.
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Old 10-05-2010, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Cheshire, Conn.
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What we need are big cutbacks anywhere we can get them so we can lower the tax burden on EVERYBODY. The waste in govt is simply disgusting and I'd vote for a slug before I voted for another Democrat in CT.
How would you propose paying for the debt incurred from 2000 - 2008 on which the interest alone is staggering?
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Old 10-05-2010, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Storrs, CT
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Who do you think pays for all that "free stuff" you seem to be getting drunk on? What are you going to do when there is no more "rich" to tax and everyone is "equal"? I guess they don't teach you that at "state money sponsored university


What free stuff? I have to pay $899.00 to UCONN every month on the 15th. You don't own me as much as you think you do, Mr. Viello. Do you think I have a well off mother or a father who cares about that would help me pay this? No. You're not the only one who works. And I know this is a drop in the bucket compared to actual costs, but guess what? Studies have shown that a person with a college education makes almost a million dollars more in a lifetime than one without an education. This means that I would gladly pay the government back in taxes (with interest) if it allows the next kid from Waterbury to pursue his dreams to be whatever he wants to be. That is my vision of the American dream and that is the basis of my political ideas (if you havent already guessed).

The model of having taxpayers pay for the education of children with potential is a great idea for people who believe that a strong education system will build a great economy. How can you go by "thats not what the founders intended?" Do you think that we would be where we are now if everyone had to pay for their own education? China and Germany are already outpacing us, why? Because their government (ie their people) sponsors most of their education systems while we're too worried about whether that's socialist or not.

If this is the approach the radical change that Obama supports, and if this is the agenda that Linda are trying to stop, then guess what? I'll vote for Blumenthal.
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Old 10-05-2010, 11:19 AM
 
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Dear liberal bloodsuckers,

There are alot of socialist havens in this world, move to one instead of killing our country.
Dear Crazy Randians,

We like Connecticut, and we like our neighbours. There are lots of Libertarian havens in the world. Like Somalia. Move there instead of trying to drag our country and economy down.

See, it works both ways.

~Cheers
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Old 10-05-2010, 11:23 AM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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What free stuff? I have to pay $899.00 to UCONN every month on the 15th. You don't own me as much as you think you do, Mr. Viello. Do you think I have a well off mother or a father who cares about that would help me pay this? No. You're not the only one who works. And I know this is a drop in the bucket compared to actual costs, but guess what? Studies have shown that a person with a college education makes almost a million dollars more in a lifetime than one without an education. This means that I would gladly pay the government back in taxes (with interest) if it allows the next kid from Waterbury to pursue his dreams to be whatever he wants to be. That is my vision of the American dream and that is the basis of my political ideas (if you havent already guessed).

The model of having taxpayers pay for the education of children with potential is a great idea for people who believe that a strong education system will build a great economy. How can you go by "thats not what the founders intended?" Do you think that we would be where we are now if everyone had to pay for their own education? China and Germany are already outpacing us, why? Because their government (ie their people) sponsors most of their education systems while we're too worried about whether that's socialist or not.

If this is the approach the radical change that Obama supports, and if this is the agenda that Linda are trying to stop, then guess what? I'll vote for Blumenthal.
For the record, college grants and loans develop people, communities and economies. It is one of the places I am glad to see my tax dollars go both on a local and federal level. I'd much rather my tax dollars go to college loans than senseless wars in Iraq and Afganistan.
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Old 10-05-2010, 02:23 PM
 
Location: New England
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Can you explain why you are against consumer protection? Can you explain why you are against protecting the disabled? Can you explain why you consistently put businesses before people?

Business is an economic engine designed to serve the people, not the other way around.

I am going to assume that you DON'T want businesses to take advantage of average people, rip them off, not serve the disabled. That is what is at the core of the civil court proceedings engaged in by Blumenthal. What is your problem with this? Was Facebook better when predatory sex offenders were able to contact children? That's exactly what Blumenthal stopped on Facebook with his office.
Yes, all business are evil, opressive and out to screw the people at any cost. Come on...

I think you meant myspace...and here are the details.
In May 2007 Blumenthal demanded that the social networking site Myspace turn over a list of known sex offenders who used the site. He was quoted saying "these convicted, registered sex offenders clearly create profiles seeking to prey on children." After initial refusal, MySpace turned over a list of 5,000 names, including 100 from Connecticut. Blumenthal planned to turn this information over to law enforcement to ascertain if any probation violations had occurred.
Hmmm, that sounds a little different then what you posted. Sounds like shoot and accuse without any details or knowledge of an actual crime comitted and ask questions later.

But lets stay on the subject of Dick's record for a minute.

1. He lied about his service in Vietnam.
2. He lied about being captain of the swim team
3. He lied about taking PAC money.

1,2,3 strikes you're out. Can you explain to me, sir, how you can sit here and support a known liar and send him to represent the people of the state you live in?

I don't most people have a CLUE as to how litigeous this guy is. He's an out of control lawyer, abusing his position and abusing the tax payers of CT to blindly bankroll his cavorting. Let me toss out a fact for a second here.

Blumenthal's office, by its own count, participates in 45,000 to 50,000 legal cases a year before federal and state courts. There are some 32,000 cases now pending.

Are you @#$%#$ kidding me?!?! HOW MANY legal cases per year? He is an activist using his position to further his ideological agenda, not a public servant. Moreover, we are talking about the government. Not a private or public company. The government, which has the power to tax, penalize and punish a bene placito.

Blumenthal's office has destroyed lives with a shotgun sue and figure it out later approach. That's fact, not fiction, not bias. The man has destroyed people.

Here is an article detailing a small piece of it from the CT Post.

Blumenthal: The 'A' in AG is for Activist - Connecticut Post

Unless any of you have had the pleasure of the government coming in, freezing assets, causing 10's of thousands of legal fees if not hundreds of thousands, destroying your business and livelyhood and in one case repeatedly appealing a case to the point the business owner tried to commit suicide and in the end the proven innocent, you have NO IDEA what it feels like looking down the barrel of the state government. While I have not had it that bad, I have had the government just clean out and freeze an account and had a $1.61 to my name while it got "sorted out" and I was found innocent. While you people complain about a $0.50 rate hike in your freakin electric bill this guy is out hammering people...good honest people, who have to defend themselves against the looming giant called the state.

Defense atty Jame Oliver said it best.
"If you are a small business owner and he sues you for $70,000, and wants $1 million in penalties, life as you know it is over. Your bank accounts are seized. Liens are placed on property and assets. Even if you win, the state will appeal and you will wait another year. You are out of business. You are dead," Oliver said.
That's the reality of the "good AG".


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The only thing this does is show how arrogant Linda is. She's a "gotcha!" politician - she does nothing for me. In fact, I resent her for making me vote for Blumenthal.
Oh I think it shows what a career government employee who never had to worry about payroll, or creating a job that he had to pay for knows about the real world.

"humina humina humina". That's about it.

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"Meet the Press" played archive footage from the mid-60s of individuals claiming Medicare/Medicaid were thrusting the U.S. into Socialism. Pretty funny...
It wasn't? Sounds like it to me. A slow drip eventually turns into a flood. The water is rising more and more every year.

It's the progressive "nudge" theory. You just nudge things the way you want them to go slow enough so the people are lead to the slaughter pen.

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Classic! His idea of how to create jobs is to spend taxpayer money on companies that arent showing a profit. What a wonderful investment stratagy. I wonder if thats what he does with his own money.

What we need are big cutbacks anywhere we can get them so we can lower the tax burden on EVERYBODY. The waste in govt is simply disgusting and I'd vote for a slug before I voted for another Democrat in CT.
Bingo. I just got through an IRS tax levy, literally in Sept that I now have to hire an accountant and pay through the nose to prove they were wrong and get my own money back. They just took it. Gone. Buh by. Sorry we have the power you are a little tiny bug. Squash.

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How would you propose paying for the debt incurred from 2000 - 2008 on which the interest alone is staggering?
Well we can start by adding another 10 trillion to it. That ought to fix it.

U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

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What free stuff? I have to pay $899.00 to UCONN every month on the 15th.
Are you 100% responsible for that note? That's coming out of your wallet and/or loan at fair market interest rates?

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And I know this is a drop in the bucket compared to actual costs, but guess what? Studies have shown that a person with a college education makes almost a million dollars more in a lifetime than one without an education.
Wow, they used that same statistic on "go to college in your PJ's" commercial. Brilliant!

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This means that I would gladly pay the government back in taxes (with interest) if it allows the next kid from Waterbury to pursue his dreams to be whatever he wants to be. That is my vision of the American dream and that is the basis of my political ideas (if you havent already guessed).
So you rely on the government to do this, and not grants, scholarships and hard work like we used too? Just because you "want it" you should get it. Right?

I want it, government give it to me.

For what it's worth, I paid for my own schooling. Worked literally three different jobs in Orlando to do it. Rode a bike and bus to work the first few months until I saved enough to to add to the $300.00 my sick grandmother sent to me to purchase a car...a piece of junk, but it worked.

Heck, now you just join the national guard and *poof* it's paid for by phantom Obama money. Sweet!

But see, this is what you said:

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I don't know what it is about Connecticut that its people are so obsessed with the rich. Middle Class/Working class all for the rich. I'd vote for Blumenthal for this simple fact; I'd rather have someone from Connecticut pushing the yes we can/equal opportunity/mind ur f'ing business who I'm having sex with or what religion I am agenda of 2008 than have someone push the Bush agenda of 2004.

Dear Middle Class/Working Class voters of CT:

You're never gonna get rich by voting for a rich candidate. Take some of Obama's education money get an education and get over yourselfs.
I've never been given a job by a government employee or a broke person. I have supported my family by working for some people with more money than you can phathom. Fine with me, I could care less how much this guy earns. He treats me with respect and hires me back year after year...in fact I see a lot of other tradesmen back at his place often as well.

And furthermore, we are not talking about "getting rich". I'm talking about being middle class. If someone pushes to make something for themselves, gets "rich" in the process and out of that creates jobs for the middle class...great, more power to them.

I have news for you, you'll never be free relying on the slavemaster government to take care of you. I'd rather be broke with the freedom to provide for myself, then have a state issued car, house and some mundane job.

As someone equated to business a few posts back, I would counter "to *government* you are nothing but labor".

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China and Germany are already outpacing us, why? Because their government (ie their people) sponsors most of their education systems while we're too worried about whether that's socialist or not.
No, the Chinese are FORCED to work in sub par labor jobs and live in high rise goverment provided housing structures and have NO LIFE. That's great, lets be like them.

But you want to know why they are out pacing us? Because they are hungry, and the Chinese would not disrespect themselves with our social ills.

You really should spend some time seeing how the average Chinaman lives, and I don't mean Hong Kong.

The Germans are simply disciplined people, unlike our society. It has nothing to do with "government sponsored anything". It's because 90% of their children are not born to single mothers who "got busy" one night at a club while their fathers can say intelligent things like "wuzn me". It's because they have parents who EXPECT better from their kids and push them to do so. They instill things like the school is a place for learning, not a fashion show or soap opera. America is dying because of it's social ills, and not due to lack of funding. Period.

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If this is the approach the radical change that Obama supports, and if this is the agenda that Linda are trying to stop, then guess what? I'll vote for Blumenthal.
It's starts in the mirror kid. You are just a pawn to Obama, Blumenthal AND Linda, I have news for you. Make your own path, stop relying on others and stop blaming the past.
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Old 10-05-2010, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Cheshire, Conn.
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The Germans are simply disciplined people, unlike our society. It has nothing to do with "government sponsored anything". It's because 90% of their children are not born to single mothers who "got busy" one night at a club while their fathers can say intelligent things like "wuzn me". It's because they have parents who EXPECT better from their kids and push them to do so. They instill things like the school is a place for learning, not a fashion show or soap opera.
I'm flattered by the compliment about my people. But it's not correct. It's just 70 percent who are not born to single mothers (30 percent are or 70/30). For the U.S., it's 60/40; and for the U.K., its 56/44.

Out-of-wedlock births on the rise worldwide - USATODAY.com

I do know that every German gets 4 weeks of vacation per week and very good benefits: some paid by the employer; some by the Federal Republic. Unemployment is still high especially in the states of the former Democratic Republic (20 years now). I believe that laid-off workers get two years of severance pay (that's what I've heard here at work). Lastly, and most importantly, Germany has the oldest universal health care system in the world...not bad for a "land" that's always considered itself right-of-center.

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Old 10-05-2010, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Many of the people in this thread who support Blumenthal are failing to see that Blumenthal represents BARACK OBAMA, and he even talked highly about the UNPOPULAR healthcare bill and stimulus bills. Linking your own candidacy to Obama's unpopular stimulus and healthcuare bills is NOT a good strategy IMO. Linda is our only anti-Obama chioce!
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Old 10-05-2010, 02:55 PM
 
Location: New England
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I'm flattered by the compliment about my people. But it's not correct. It's just 70 percent who are not born to single mothers (30 percent are or 70/30). For the U.S., it's 60/40; and for the U.K., its 56/44.
I was speaking of a certain demographic, but I am impressed that you consider marriage a requirement of not being single as the study sites. I didn't say "unwed", I said "single" as in dad aint here and I might not even know who he is.
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Old 10-05-2010, 03:06 PM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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Many of the people in this thread who support Blumenthal are failing to see that Blumenthal represents BARACK OBAMA, and he even talked highly about the UNPOPULAR healthcare bill and stimulus bills. Linking your own candidacy to Obama's unpopular stimulus and healthcuare bills is NOT a good strategy IMO. Linda is our only anti-Obama chioce!
Blumenthal Supports Obama?

Thanks for reminding me! Now I want to vote for Blumenthal even more. The health care insurance reform LAW (It passed-- It's not a bill any more) is the most important piece of domestic legislation passed in the last 25 years. As someone who is actively be treated for colon cancer, I can tell you the health care system is very broken-- And I have insurance.

Also your assertion that the health care law is unpopular is based on nothing more than your opinion (for a change). The latest poll shows (Kaiser Health Tracking Poll) shows that while 55% are confused by the law, the new law enjoys the support of 49% versus 40% who view it unfavorably. As it turns out as people find out what is actually in the law-- without the filter of screaming republicans and insurance companies-- they actually like it.

As far as the stimulus -- which non sycophantic unbiased economists all agree was successful -- if you think we'd be better off now with 12-15% unemployment instead of 9% then you seriously need to reconsider your values. The stimulus was part of a program of GOOD decisions that prevented the economic collapse of the country.

We need HCR that goes even further-- We need a government option in the plan that will insure every citizen at an affordable cost.

If you like the idea that your are a serious illness away from financial ruin and bankruptcy, then continue your current thoughts on the issue.

I'd love to see a second stimulus more focused on rebuilding the country's sorry infrastructure.

As part of the 46.2% of Americans who approve of what Obama is doing, what you said, could not have been a stronger argument for voting for Blumenthal.
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