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Seriously, this was just a couple of miles from my parents house in so. Glas. I was there when all the fire trucks went screaming by.
Huh? Wanting to find out why it collapsed is delighting? I'm trying to say the home owners need to find out why it collapsed under 1.5 ft of snow. Roofs should hold up to 36-40 inches in this area. Something fishy, either with the structure or the home owner whether you knew them or not.
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Huh? Wanting to find out why it collapsed is delighting? I'm trying to say the home owners need to find out why it collapsed under 1.5 ft of snow. Roofs should hold up to 36-40 inches in this area. Something fishy, either with the structure or the home owner whether you knew them or not.
I know nothing about building a home that's why I said it seemed weird to me. I can understand if the home was abandoned and in disrepair but for an occupied home to collapse just from snow on the roof? You are right, something is fishy.
Geesus, was it made of Tin Foil? Look at that thing!
First of all, it looks like theres less than 15" on the roof and I can verify that by looking at snow totals in the area.
Secondly.. It looks to have buckled in the middle of the home which raises the question about structural support ie: columns or main header.
Thirdly.. was the home owner underwater with his mortgage? lol..
Lastly... I would go to town hall and see how and who inspected the home when it was built.
I can't wait to see details of this story. Hopefully someone will find out and post it here. Thanks
Are you serious?
It's one of those "older well built homes" not built to today's crappy standards in another thread. Oh, inspections...just like you said "minimum code" didn't matter either.
15"? I can get ON MY ROOF WITHOUT A LADDER. We still have over 30" on the ground here.
Column's? Headers? A header goes over window and door openings to distribute vertical load and has nothing to do with this. Maybe you mean girder beam?
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Dude, don't delight in peoples misery. Seriously, this was just a couple of miles from my parents house in so. Glas. I was there when all the fire trucks went screaming by.
Totally agreed.
As someone who guts and rebuilds houses for living, I can tell you exactly what happened here.
Rafters, push "outwardly" on the top of outside walls - your ceiling joists hold the outside walls together like a turnbuckle and basically make a triangle if looked at from the end. Too much weight can cause the tops of the outside walls to fail and push out. Once that happens, it's like an implosion and the middle collapses down while the walls push out. You are not stopping it. In many new "crappy construction" homes, engineered trusses are designed with this unique feature that causes the load to push back against itself. In other words, the more the weight pushes on the middle, the structure causes an "in kind" leverage push back. But hey, everything new is "junk".
Furthermore, there could have been carpenter ant or termite damage that made the structure less sound.
Hey folks, you hear that "popping" and "banging" from your house over the last few weeks like someone hit the side of your house with a sledgehammer? Yea, most likely you suffered structural damage and that was a rafter blowing out, or a join point coming apart. Homes don't "pop" like that unless something is failing. I had two rafters fail - BANG...BOOM. (Braced the others up, and all is well till the spring when I can replace them.)
The bottom line here is a family is out of a home. Not a good situation, but thankfully they are all alive.
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Secondly.. It looks to have buckled in the middle of the home which raises the question about structural support ie: columns or main header.
Typo (tired).. I meant I-Beam, Support beam not header but the obvious was implied. Columns meaning posts to support the weight of house in basement. Obviously the support walls on main floor hold up the 2nd floor but there should be posts in basement. I wish we built homes with better quality like way back in the day... Everything we use is so damn cheap since the 50s.. and while codes change every year or so we all build based on minimum requirements. Sad.
Did you know that at the start of the century a 2x8 actually measured 2" x 8" and now a 2x8 measures 1.5 inches by 7.25 inches
Bottom line...Homeowner did not clean his roof EVEN AFTER governor consistantly mentioned to do so for a week...and that there could be possible defaults in the contruction of the home when its obvious there's less than 2 feet on that roof. Just look at it! Looks like the middle of the home buckled.. Attic?
Lets zoom in..
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