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Old 03-07-2011, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Bellevue, WA
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"OMG, I can't believe the number of people who hate Northeast."

I know it sounds terribly negative, but unless you've lived there, you will never quite understand what it's like to enjoy life 12 months out of the year instead of only 6. I feel like I'm in prison here. My kids hate not being able to go out back or to the park every day. I can't tell you the last time I walked out of my house, looked up in the sky and just thought "what a beautiful day!" I just feel like we're wasting half our life away here.

Granted, the job market in CA is terrible and is the only reason why we left. But in hindsight I wished my husband had stayed where he was - even if it meant turning down a better opportunity. We had an amazing life and friends there. If the opportunity presents itself down the road to return, there is no question in our minds that we'd do it in a heartbeat.

Sure, cost of living is high as are taxes, but we called it a 'sunshine tax' and were glad to pay it. Out here, you are forking over half of your income on taxes and have little to show for it. At least when it was 75 degrees every day I was in a more giving mood!
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Old 03-07-2011, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Milford CT
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"OMG, I can't believe the number of people who hate Northeast."

I know it sounds terribly negative, but unless you've lived there, you will never quite understand what it's like to enjoy life 12 months out of the year instead of only 6. I feel like I'm in prison here. My kids hate not being able to go out back or to the park every day. I can't tell you the last time I walked out of my house, looked up in the sky and just thought "what a beautiful day!" I just feel like we're wasting half our life away here.

Granted, the job market in CA is terrible and is the only reason why we left. But in hindsight I wished my husband had stayed where he was - even if it meant turning down a better opportunity. We had an amazing life and friends there. If the opportunity presents itself down the road to return, there is no question in our minds that we'd do it in a heartbeat.

Sure, cost of living is high as are taxes, but we called it a 'sunshine tax' and were glad to pay it. Out here, you are forking over half of your income on taxes and have little to show for it. At least when it was 75 degrees every day I was in a more giving mood!

One of the main reasons we are thinking of relocating...this winter did it for me...it was between Irvine CA and Cary NC and it looks more like NC is going to win because of the the COL...
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Old 03-07-2011, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Bellevue, WA
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"It was between Irvine CA and Cary NC and it looks more like NC is going to win because of the the COL"

Yes, but Irvine doesn't have mosquitos and humidity. There are cheaper places in Orange County than Irvine. Go inland a little and it drops significantly. Probably not NC cheap, but worth it, IMO.

But I have a lot of friends in NC and they are very happy there.
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Old 03-07-2011, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Milford CT
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"It was between Irvine CA and Cary NC and it looks more like NC is going to win because of the the COL"

Yes, but Irvine doesn't have mosquitos and humidity. There are cheaper places in Orange County than Irvine. Go inland a little and it drops significantly. Probably not NC cheap, but worth it, IMO.

But I have a lot of friends in NC and they are very happy there.

I know, I think the CA weather is much better but i think the COL in NC looks significantly cheaper...I would probably make the same amount about (65-70k)...fiance would need to find a job in Interior Design in both places.
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Old 03-07-2011, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Connecticut
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Yes, the weather is beautiful but quite frankly I find the barren brown landscape of Southern California ugly. There I said it. Orange County is nice but very over crowded and not very well planned. I do not like to have to get on a multi-lane highway to go everywhere and I do not htink that a sea of McMansions (you forget the McMansion was invented in Orange County) on literally postage stamp sized lots is very charming. And if you want to find a place with the most shallow people per square mile, then Southern CA is just right for you (that is what my friend who has lived 25+ years says). I love the northeast and the change in seasons. I love all of the seasons (even this winter) because it is so diverse. I also love the charm and history of New England. You don't find that in southern Califormia. I don't even thinnk the food is that great. Too many chi-chi trendy and Mex places. Okay, I said my peace. Jay
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Old 03-07-2011, 11:57 PM
 
Location: Austin, Texas
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Wow. We are in Orange County CA and have been wanting to move east for quite awhile. Specifically the Northeast. Unfortunately the timing, nor the economy, has been right. We have family in CT, which is why I follow this board, thinking that is where we would like to try living someday. When I first started following the CT board it was refreshing to find a place where the people were happy. Unfortunately, the climate on this board has changed a lot.
Most posts now focus on complaints about taxes, weather, and unfriendly people. Nothing that most of us don't already know, but it seems to be all that the people of CT can talk about. I feel bad for the OP as most of the CT residents have opted to air out everything they hate about their state, instead of simply answering his/her question. I am sure the OP knows that CT will be completely different than San Diego, and that, yes, it's really cold. I don't think the OP asked for anyone's opinion on whether or not he should move. Sadly this thread was used as a sounding board for all of those who want out of the state.
Personally, even though there are a lot of things I dislike about CA, when I answer a post on the OC board I answer the question. I don't tell the poster how miserable they will be, unless that is what they want to know. Most people on City-Data simply want information. If they want honest opinions they usually ask, then I feel it is appropriate to say what you feel are the drawbacks of your state.
I love CT when we visit, even in the winter, but now I am not so sure I could really live there. It seems like a pretty dismal place, where most of the residents simply want out. I don't want to be a prisoner in my own house and it's not seeming like the inviting area I thought it would be. So disappointing.
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Old 03-08-2011, 12:23 AM
 
Location: Central Virginia
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I was just telling another poster how IMO City Data skews to the negative. I think you could probably move to a lot of places and be very happy there.

I lived in Florida for 15 years and I swear I always felt like the only person who hated it. It was just too hot and muggy for too long. But everyone else there loved it. Then I find City data and all I read are negative comments. I can tell you that the City Data vibe for Florida is far different than living there. I think it's the same with CT.

This winter was horrid and I usually like winter so I think it's taken it's toll on people and made them grumpy. I know it has for me. I believe that the people are friendly and seem happy for the most part. On this board, you'll find a lot of people like myself who are leaving the state simply because of the cost of living. Obviously, for many people, the cost of living works out fine for them and they actually earn a better living here than they would most places. For us, we took a chance and moved and it just didn't work out.
But really, you need to plan a trip here and visit for yourself. City data is great for some feedback but honestly I've done a lot of reading on this board and there is no state or city that gets rave reviews. I don't think there is any place you'll read about on City Data and think, "Wow I want to move there!"

BUT maybe that's good that the negative is laid out and posters don't have to fish around for it. It does make you feel bummed out about moving though.
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Old 03-08-2011, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Fairfield County, CT
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I love CT when we visit, even in the winter, but now I am not so sure I could really live there. It seems like a pretty dismal place, where most of the residents simply want out. I don't want to be a prisoner in my own house and it's not seeming like the inviting area I thought it would be. So disappointing.
Anyone who uses a message board to determine whether or not they should move 3,000 miles away wasn't going to move in the first place.

FWIW, the OP did ask for an affordable, commutable, safe area where they can survive on $50k. He also ended his post with "any other advice/input will be appreciated". If that's not asking for opinions, then I don't know what is.

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Old 03-08-2011, 08:14 AM
 
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One of the main reasons we are thinking of relocating...this winter did it for me...it was between Irvine CA and Cary NC and it looks more like NC is going to win because of the the COL...
Talk to me in July/August.......... careful what you wish for..its HELL here in summer...
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Old 03-08-2011, 08:21 AM
 
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Wow. We are in Orange County CA and have been wanting to move east for quite awhile. Specifically the Northeast. Unfortunately the timing, nor the economy, has been right. We have family in CT, which is why I follow this board, thinking that is where we would like to try living someday. When I first started following the CT board it was refreshing to find a place where the people were happy. Unfortunately, the climate on this board has changed a lot.
Most posts now focus on complaints about taxes, weather, and unfriendly people. Nothing that most of us don't already know, but it seems to be all that the people of CT can talk about. I feel bad for the OP as most of the CT residents have opted to air out everything they hate about their state, instead of simply answering his/her question. I am sure the OP knows that CT will be completely different than San Diego, and that, yes, it's really cold. I don't think the OP asked for anyone's opinion on whether or not he should move. Sadly this thread was used as a sounding board for all of those who want out of the state.
Personally, even though there are a lot of things I dislike about CA, when I answer a post on the OC board I answer the question. I don't tell the poster how miserable they will be, unless that is what they want to know. Most people on City-Data simply want information. If they want honest opinions they usually ask, then I feel it is appropriate to say what you feel are the drawbacks of your state.
I love CT when we visit, even in the winter, but now I am not so sure I could really live there. It seems like a pretty dismal place, where most of the residents simply want out. I don't want to be a prisoner in my own house and it's not seeming like the inviting area I thought it would be. So disappointing.

Here is the thing..I figured this out. I too am ready to move back to CT. The people on forums (same as here in Charlotte) come on to complain (yes, I'm culprit number one!)..its a sound off board more than anything. Its not that many of the complaints aren't justified, but those who are content just don't bother posting. GRAIN OF SALT... Look at the weather. I'd kill to be back in the 4 season northeast weather. I now have 6 months of heat to look forward to .. its all relative.

Bottom line..don't let a forum change your mind about your dreams...half these people are just sick of winter .

P.S. CT does have a terrible cost of living level though..that IS a realism..
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