[ctwhitechin]

so think this will come to fruition? I think so this time. The 2nd union said no to the proposed concessions, so approximately 7500 state workers will join the unemployed fairly quickly.

This one I have mixed emotions on.

[joe143]

It looks like the deal is dead and lay offs are going to happen. While I do think many of the state departments are bloated, I'm not sure this will help.

IMO, the problem is a skewed management/ employee ratio. There are too many middle to high end managers/supervisors in many departments. I dont think the problem is the average state worker making 50K. If they take the approach to lay off the most recent employees it will not address the crux of the problem.

[ctwhitechin]

Correct last in first out isn't going to help here.

[JViello]

They are stupid to vote this down. 7500 layoffs is only going to save about 450 million. I say only because there is a 2 billion dollar gap to fill.

The whole thing, the entire process has been a circus and a joke. The state needs to bring spending under control and REDUCE the budget, not grow it slower. Period.

[Rich Cabeza]

I've got my bags packed if it happens. Going back out west somewhere.

[mels]

Originally Posted by joe143

IMO, the problem is a skewed management/ employee ratio. There are too many middle to high end managers/supervisors in many departments. I dont think the problem is the average state worker making 50K. If they take the approach to lay off the most recent employees it will not address the crux of the problem.

I agree 100%. The bloated middle management is where cuts need to be made. I don't want to see anyone lose their job but as a taxpayer I don't think my money should be wasted to keep up an unsustainable manager/supervisor to employee ratio. The few state agencies I currently work with have a management layer about 4 times larger than any private company I have ever worked for.

Unfortunately the last one in, first out rule will keep the current structure in place, never resulting in any savings. Speaking of savings, I just learned the state has a Department of Information Technology that employs about 200 people. Mind you, every state agency also has their own in-house IT people. From my experience in the private sector, that number is pretty outrageous.

[mlassoff]

For my $.02 I'll say good-- Labor was give more then their fare chance to provide concessions. It's a shame that the cuts will likely come more from the workers than the administrators and managers.

[adamz]

Originally Posted by mlassoff

For my $.02 I'll say good-- Labor was give more then their fare chance to provide concessions. It's a shame that the cuts will likely come more from the workers than the administrators and managers.

I just want to point out that a majority of "labor" did in fact vote for concessions. The SEBAC rules require a super-supermajority to approve.

[ctwhitechin]

wonder if Molloy is giving himself any concessions to help lower the budget defecit, like maybe buying dunkin donuts instead of Starbucks and not super sizing his McDonalds

I'm afraid you guys are right these layoffs are a pittance of what needs to be done....sad for those that will lose their jobs for sure.

[mlassoff]

Originally Posted by ctwhitechin

wonder if Molloy is giving himself any concessions to help lower the budget defecit, like maybe buying dunkin donuts instead of Starbucks and not super sizing his McDonalds

I'm afraid you guys are right these layoffs are a pittance of what needs to be done....sad for those that will lose their jobs for sure.

So in other words, no matter what Malloy does, you'll complain? When he raised taxes no one was extolling the virtues of saving jobs... Now that layoffs are required due to the union vote-- You're hedging against layoffs?

Good grief.