[HeadedWest]

Originally Posted by bobtn

mlassoff, As of now Ct employee prescription co-pays run $3-$6.

Current co-pays run $5 to $25, I believe.

[Rich Cabeza]

Originally Posted by HeadedWest

Current co-pays run $5 to $25, I believe.

That is correct. Are you headed west? Where?

[bobtn]

I was with a state employee who paid $3-$6 for 4 different meds. That was less than 2 weeks ago. I was shown the receipt; perhaps there are different plans, but I have yet to see one private sector one at $3-$6.

Even $5 is absurd.

BTW, had managers been able to manage, and capable, they would not have backfilled every opening for decades. Technology reduced (properly) private sector headcount (empty cubes in every office got bigger and bigger and bigger) , but we know the union wanted all backfilled to keep their dues revenue growing. Think how many of 6,500 could have been left open before (DMV is just one good example-many states reduced heads here, as much of the annual stuff can be done online) , reducing the deficit, and reducing the layoffs. Granted, state voluntary attrition is lower than private since benefits for state were Cadillac, but still some attrition happened, and could have reduced this blow.

Rich Cabeza, What are the current Ct Tier 1 and Tier 2 maximum employee annual out of pockets, single and family?

[Stratford, Ct. Resident]

I was with a state employee who paid $3-$6 for 4 different meds. That was less than 2 weeks ago. I was shown the receipt; perhaps there are different plans, but I have yet to see one private sector one at $3-$6.

Active employees pay $5/10/25. Retirees pay $3/6.

[bobtn]

Even $5/$15/$25 is far too little, normal though for Cadillac coverage. Private sector typically starts at $10 or $15, and maxes between $40-$50.

What are the state out-of-pocket max ranges? Is coverage normally 100%, or a typical private sector 80/20 where the employee has skin in the game, too?

[Stratford, Ct. Resident]

What are the state out-of-pocket max ranges? Is coverage normally 100%, or a typical private sector 80/20 where the employee has skin in the game, too?

It's all public record for anybody to view:http://www.osc.ct.gov/empret/healthi...ActiveEmpl.pdf.

[bobtn]

Thanks. No wonder Ct is billions in the red. That is past Cadillac; no deductables, 100% coverage. Insane. Mlassoff, you wondered about efficiency gains-get real, that takes employee skin in the game. Ct state employees have no skin in the game-its just other peoples money.


Do they play the following for new employees? Here Comes Santa Claus lyrics

http://www.41051.com/xmaslyrics/herecomes.html

Jviello, I always assumed like the rest of America, even most state employees in RTW states, they paid something for services rendered. Unreal. Whomever negotiated these deals from the state should be behind bars.

PS, Thanks for the live link.

[JViello]

Originally Posted by bobtn

Whomever negotiated these deals from the state should be behind bars.

He got out Feb of 06...

[bobtn]

This deal is stuck in 1972. This is why Health Care needs to be removed forever from all public union negotiations.

Any state can be the next: Central Falls, Rhode Island

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/12/bu...alls&st=Search

[basehead617]

Originally Posted by Tin Knocker

Not sure why? In the real world when you start looking for ways to be more efficient this is exactly whats done. What we need to ask really is why two people who do the same job dont make the same money.

For some barely skilled jobs, you have a point. However there are many, many jobs where more years of experience translates to being 'better' at the 'same job'. It is in many companies' interests to retain experienced employees who are best equipped to handle difficult challenges and can train new people properly as well. Paying them more for their experience, and paying them more based on seniority to retain them is a common thing and there's absolutely nothing wrong with it.

Again, for many (not all) types of jobs.