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Old 11-09-2011, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Mississippi
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How about that 15 year old boy who was riding his bike in Granby and a drunk cop ran him over & killed him! That teenage boy had a right to reach the age of 16!
the cop had no right to be drinking & driving in the first place, let alone going 75 mph in a 35 mph speed zone.
But now the cop not only is not sitting in a jail cell, like he ought to be doing, but he wants his job as a Cop back, and wants the town to pay him $50,000 in back pay!
That was Windsor Locks, not Granby. We had the cop who was arrested for possessing child pornography. I believe he has resigned.

 
Old 11-09-2011, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Fairfield County, CT
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mlassoff, The government has reported 9 in 10..
Please provide a link to the government reporting 9 in 10 small business fail. I have never seen this number reported on any government web site, so, here is your chance to educate me....
 
Old 11-09-2011, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Fairfield County, CT
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How about that 15 year old boy who was riding his bike in Granby and a drunk cop ran him over & killed him! That teenage boy had a right to reach the age of 16!
Um Tragic, but, not an example of systemic civil rights violations in Connecticut, and hardly an example you couldn't find in other states.... You do know what civil rights are, don't you?
 
Old 11-09-2011, 01:13 PM
 
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Research on Small Businesses - start-ups, statistics, SBA, bankruptcy, GEM, failure, business closures, developing countries

While the links provided show a 80% failure rate to be more accurate, the headcount per small bus, I found elsewhere, to be in the vicinity of 4 employees, much like mlassofs' 3 employee firm.

So for a state needing jobs lets say for 150k, that would mean 37,500 small business would need to survive, and based on 80% failing, 150,000 must be created. So every 11th adult resident would need to create a 3 employee plus him/herself firm.

This part of the attached stood out:

1. In the plethora of data released by Statistics Canada each year, two numbers loom that are of particular importance to small business people: about 145,000 new businesses start up each year in this country, and about 137,000 businesses declare bankruptcy each year.

To the first who says but that was 1999, yes, a far better economy so the liklihood is failures are happening more often NOW than than.
 
Old 11-09-2011, 01:14 PM
 
Location: New England
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I know plenty of people who left CT after they got out of school, b/c the cost of living was too prohibitive to afford to stay here!
I think the south is a lot more reasonably priced too. You do NOT have govt officials who make you wait an entire week to get power either after you'd had a heavy snowstorm. If that happened down south, they'd be on it, in a heartbeat.
I was reading too, that the workers who came up here to do the Power Line Crews this past week came into a public restaurant and were very frustrated and fed up, because they'd been treated horribly while they were working here! So, it's not just the cost of living, it's the complacent attitutde of so many who live here. You're just going to accept this for a way of life.

What I really do not accept nor understand is why you allow all these company officials or govt officials the right to make SO much money it is shocking, yet they are always allowed to leave people in the lurch!
See, that wouldn't be happening down south either. People work hard to make a living in the south. They don't want to pay their govt officials thru the roof for stuff they are not even doing right.
So..I just read that East Hartford is one the top 10 most crime-ridden cities in Connecticut, but then I'm also reading in the papers for the area that their police chief makes $160,000!
That town only has about 25,000 people in it I believe, but I hear their taxes are very high there, even though it's not a safe town to live in.
See... that makes no sense at all to me! Why would you want to pay high dollar for a police chief who cannot safeguard the town from being ridden with crime.
And East Hartford was never known before for a high crime rate, so obviously something changed drastically in the last few years. You got an electric company whose charging the highest rates in the country, next to Hawaii, but that's out in the middle of the Pacific Ocean.
Yet, the major elec. co. couldn't guarantee anyone's power would be on soon, cuz they didn't want to set up local crews to clean up all this mess from the recent snowstorm! Instead they ended up getting crews from Canada instead to help come to CT and clean up the damage from this storm!
that makes absolutely no sense to me either, you got to get a bunch of crews from another country? Why? Cuz you refused to pay off the crews in your own country, who came to rescue you back in August, during Hurricane Irene? Me thinks that might be the reason why.
Who wants to work hard and risk yourself cutting down downed power lines & falling trees and then not get paid for 2 whole months? I wouldn't.
Are you saying, OP, that CT is not a good place to find decent paying jobs also? I didn't realize that, but that explains why I cannot find work that pays more than min. wage here, even if it was at a company whom I worked for, before!
Am I alone here?

 
Old 11-09-2011, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Fairfield County, CT
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Originally Posted by bobtn View Post
Research on Small Businesses - start-ups, statistics, SBA, bankruptcy, GEM, failure, business closures, developing countries

While the links provided show a 80% failure rate to be more accurate, the headcount per small bus, I found elsewhere, to be in the vicinity of 4 employees, much like mlassofs' 3 employee firm.

So for a state needing jobs lets say for 150k, that would mean 37,500 small business would need to survive, and based on 80% failing, 150,000 must be created. So every 11th adult resident would need to create a 3 employee plus him/herself firm.

This part of the attached stood out:

1. In the plethora of data released by Statistics Canada each year, two numbers loom that are of particular importance to small business people: about 145,000 new businesses start up each year in this country, and about 137,000 businesses declare bankruptcy each year.

To the first who says but that was 1999, yes, a far better economy so the liklihood is failures are happening more often NOW than than.
Now Bob, are you trying to move the goal posts?

You first claimed that 9 of 10 small business fail and insisted that's a government number.

Now, when pressed for proof you say -- Whoops I was only off by 100% it's 8 in 10. Then for proof you provide an article (from a single researcher whose claim to fame is that she's a librarian) and take the single worst statistic from the article-- ignoring contrarian statements such as " Phillips and Kirchhoff (1989) mentioned the myth of 9 out of 10 new businesses closing in their first year. But using Dun & Bradstreet data they found that 76 percent of new firms were open after two years, 47 percent after four years and 38 percent after six years" which appear in the same document.

I have to say, Bob, on this issue (and by extension the many others your write about) your creditability-- in a word-- sucks. You quite obviously pick statistics that match your belief system, no matter how lacking in credibility they are-- even if they are contradicted on the very same page.

You WANT to believe the myth that 9 in 10 small businesses failed and are bound and determined not to stray form that belief regardless of what proof is offered to the contrary-- and offer no evidence to back up your claims what-so-ever.

People on this board are making life-altering decisions. Where to settle down, what the job market is like, whether or not they can start a business can have an impact on people every day for the rest of their lives. They deserve more than agendized opinion masquerading as facts. They deserve the truth. What you offer, by all appearances here, seems to be nothing more than your opinion, delivered in screed after screed, without the common sense to change your mind when you cannot make an offer of proof-- and when most evidence points to the contrary.
 
Old 11-09-2011, 02:06 PM
 
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Virginia is not in trouble.
I have a good friend that lives in Virginia and she tells a different story.
 
Old 11-09-2011, 05:58 PM
 
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mlassoff, What is the new math? 8 in 10 failing vs 9 in 10, is inconsequential given the average size of a small bus is much like yours, about 4 employees (far fewer than a Subway sandwich shop). For 20 plus years, job growth there is non-existent. There were more jobs in 1991 in Ct than right now (and they failed at keeping 200-500 employee firms, stuff like Casco Mfg production, Bryant Electric, Marlin Firearms, Handy & Harman, Carpenter Steel, etc), so again 150k required/4 at a clip is not a winning formula as demonstrated by the "success rate" of 1991-2011. That means businesses your size have not made a dent in the problem in Ct. PS, Casco manufactures in Kentucky, and Carpenter went to Pa, so not everything went offshore, some relocated.

150k/250 at a clip can work wonders. Do you think for a moment any state agency would deal with you, helping you out, if you disbanded your business? No, they would not care, nor should they. There are , or should be, bigger fish to fry.

So mlassoff, given that anemic 20 year record of no success, what makes you think repeating the same pattern will change the prior run rate? Insanity is doing the same things over and over, and expecting different results. The governor recognizes 4 at a clip is NOT an answer. His focus properly is not on mom and pops, but on keeping stuff like UBS. Its one of the few things he has understood beautifully. Just as our focus is on winning at minimum 1 of the 3 auto transplants poised to add at minimum 1 additional plant each,and of course, formalize adding a auto production line to Spring Hill.

4 employee mom and pops come and go, and no one notices. While they should not be taxed to death, for an Economic Development Team to spend much time with them would not be cost effective. These mom and pops matter far more to the owner, than to the community.

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Old 11-09-2011, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Granby, CT sometimes NH.
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TX is not in trouble. But I mean that's just a dumb red state right?

Drill baby drill job plan along with lots of minimum wage jobs.
 
Old 11-09-2011, 06:29 PM
 
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Texas has had astounding job creation,as have a handful of states. It sure beats the inverse!

The good news though is now 14 states per BLS are below 7%, and ironically despite gaining 1/3 of new US jobs the last few years, Tx is not one of them. That 14 was less than 1/2 as big just a year or so ago (a very good national sign!! Most will join them over several years). If I were unemployed w/o prospects, I'd head for one of them, and not consider any of the others. Especially North Dakota, with its Clintonesque 3.5% rate. Drill, bay, drill has made them a booming state. Their problem is housing all the new people coming in. Some town pops are exploding!

http://www.bls.gov/web/laus/laumstrk.htm

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