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Old 11-23-2011, 08:06 AM
 
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People are crazy for caring about smoke in a casino. Fear much parentologist?

The MA casino is barely going to dent the CT casinos' revenue unless it's really high end and has a stadium that will attract nationally touring artists.
I agree with JV. I don't think you realize how many people come from MA, RI and even NH to enjoy the casinos. There are a lot of people who come from NYC, but the vast majority of casino-bound New Yorkers go to AC.

I don't gamble but have gone a few times for dinner/drinks with some friends; I might throw down 20 bucks in the slots but when it's gone, I'm ready to go.
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Old 11-23-2011, 08:45 AM
 
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I don't think you realize how many people come from MA, RI and even NH to enjoy the casinos.
Foxwoods has a much larger # of MA patrons than Mohegan. Foxwoods/MGM will be much more negatively impacted by the MA casino bill.

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There are a lot of people who come from NYC, but the vast majority of casino-bound New Yorkers go to AC.
Not anymore. The NYC patrons are a mixed bag that aren't really allegiant to any particular casino. The "racinos" in NY, the casinos in PA, the casinos in AC, and Mohegan in CT all see their fair share of these people.
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Old 11-23-2011, 08:53 AM
 
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And those snow machines, cars, and motorcycles were free right? And cost nothing to operate/maintain?
I'd rather spend my dough that way then mindlessly feeding $$$ into a machine...next to some porker on O2...just my. 02...
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Old 11-23-2011, 09:17 AM
 
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Not anymore. The NYC patrons are a mixed bag that aren't really allegiant to any particular casino. The "racinos" in NY, the casinos in PA, the casinos in AC, and Mohegan in CT all see their fair share of these people.
That's pretty much what I was getting at. There are a lot of NYers at the eastern CT casinos, but they have other options (unlike MA, RI, etc).
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Old 11-23-2011, 08:36 PM
 
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The 6,000 jobs Ma sees associated with this seems, when adding indirect supplier employment, very conservative. Add in defense cuts to come via budget deal bust and that is a very bad combination.
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Old 11-23-2011, 08:42 PM
 
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The 6,000 jobs Ma sees associated with this seems, when adding indirect supplier employment, very conservative. Add in defense cuts to come via budget deal bust and that is a very bad combination.
Yet when we were discussing a certain business moving to CT, you chose to ignore that "indirect supplier employment". But when that "indirect supplier employment" works against CT, you throw it all around.

This, once again, solidifies your agenda.
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Old 11-23-2011, 08:49 PM
 
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That business, kidyankee, was relocated from 20 miles away, Manhattan-Stamford does not add indirect jobs. The same suppliers will happily travel a reverse commute to service the same employees that were at the NY office. that is why states must focus on relocating corps from many hundreds of miles away, thus indirect jobs are lost at state losing, won by state gaining. the supplier jobs the casinos created were NJ supplier jobs lost. Ma casinos will use Ma suppliers, none are close enough to Ct ones to need to share, and looking at casino map JV posted, there will plenty to service in Ma.
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Old 11-23-2011, 08:52 PM
 
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That business, kidyankee, was relocated from 20 miles away, Manhattan-Stamford does not add indirect jobs. The same suppliers will happily travel a reverse commute to service the same employees that were at the NY office. that is why states must focus on relocating corps from many hundreds of miles away, thus indirect jobs are lost at state losing, won by state gaining. the supplier jobs the casinos created were NJ supplier jobs lost. Ma casinos will use Ma suppliers, none are close enough to Ct ones to need to share, and looking at casino map JV posted, there will plenty to service in Ma.
Looks to me like three are located within 20 miles of CT. One is located less than half that.

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Old 11-23-2011, 08:58 PM
 
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One is on the border, but at least 50 miles from Ct Indian casinos for nearest one (I assume suppliers are near Ct casinos, not Ma border!!), and most likely 100 or so miles for a few of them. Ct should consider itself lucky to have held on this long w/o NE competition. The big issue is has Ct government built into its future budgets flexibility over the huge revenue loss? It NEVER should have been part of the base budget; it should have been used to build a rainy day fund. Expecting other states not to add casinos would be luny at best.
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Old 11-23-2011, 09:09 PM
 
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One is on the border, but at least 50 miles from Ct Indian casinos for nearest one (I assume suppliers are near Ct casinos, not Ma border!!), and most likely 100 or so miles for a few of them.
You'd be surprised. Many, many contractors will travel 50-70 miles to supply and service various clients. When I worked in Norwalk, we had suppliers from as far away as Wethersfield and New Jersey.

Let's not guess, shall we?
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