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Old 02-27-2012, 07:23 AM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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For most, it depends on the what the heat is set for and quality on construction & insulation on the house. I have a client's house on the market built in the early 1970s that is about 2200 square feet (1st & 2nd floor) plus another 600 in their finished basement. They have all electric baseboard heat. Their bill on the budget plan for the year is $250 a month,which is great espically when it includes cooking, showering for 5 people, laundry and normal usage.
? $3000 a year? Actually sounds too low.

I lived in a 1200sq ft townhouse built in the 80s, electric heat. Basement, 2 bths + other 5 rooms. T-Stat off when not in room. And set at 62 when in room. I had a picture of the temp inside one room at 48 degrees cause I refused to turn it on in that room. LMAO. Winter bill over $275/mth. Summer bill over $200(Window A/C)...

and thats heat for just a couple of rooms for 2 people. Can't imagine a 2200' SF house with 5 people..
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Old 02-28-2012, 07:18 AM
 
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No further comment from Brian?
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Old 03-01-2012, 05:33 PM
 
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Another good thing about Nat gas is you skip the yearly maintenance on your furnace because it burns so clean. My furnace ran into problem only on the 7th year without having any maintenance done and the problem was found to be dirty drainage pipe (water residues from hard water). My water heater hasnt had problems at its 9th year this year.
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Old 03-03-2012, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Branford
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[quote=Wilton2ParkAve;23175524]No further comment from Brian?[/QUOTE

We have so much Natural Gas that a few recently tapped wells are flaring (burning it off) because there is no where to store it.

Cambium- It's actually cheaper than wood per cord per million BTU's at $225 a cord. We have a woodburning stove but its cheaper to just turn up the t-stat than deal with the labor/hassle of wood. As of Fri its actually 3.5 times less than heating oil per million BTU's.

My gas bill has been going down every month in terms of gas cost. Natural gas prices have been plumeting for the past 5 years to record lows.



We really need to start utilizing it. We have a 100+ years of reserves to fuel the entire US at current consumption. CNG (compressed natural gas) cars get 38 mpg at the equivalent of less than a dollar a gallon compared to gasoline. Honda has a Civic GX that runs on CNG.
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Old 03-03-2012, 08:24 AM
 
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Nice job ignoring the rest of my post about the fallacies of nat gas an the huge domestic oil discoveries thy trump even nat gas.
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Old 03-03-2012, 09:43 AM
 
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Hey, when they opened up all that gas are supplies went up and up and the price went south. Obama take the hint and start that keystone XL! PM Harper is a capitalist and not a socialist that Canada is so used to. He'll sell to the Chinese and our supplies will head south and the price north. Guess we have the anti-Milton Friedman ruinning, I mean running, the country.

Will be switching in the summer; just ran the line at the intersection of my street and Yankee Gas has no problem comming down to mi casa.
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Old 03-03-2012, 09:47 AM
 
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No further comment from Brian?[/QUOTE

We have so much Natural Gas that a few recently tapped wells are flaring (burning it off) because there is no where to store it.

Cambium- It's actually cheaper than wood per cord per million BTU's at $225 a cord. We have a woodburning stove but its cheaper to just turn up the t-stat than deal with the labor/hassle of wood. As of Fri its actually 3.5 times less than heating oil per million BTU's.

My gas bill has been going down every month in terms of gas cost. Natural gas prices have been plumeting for the past 5 years to record lows.



We really need to start utilizing it. We have a 100+ years of reserves to fuel the entire US at current consumption. CNG (compressed natural gas) cars get 38 mpg at the equivalent of less than a dollar a gallon compared to gasoline. Honda has a Civic GX that runs on CNG.

We could all become vegans (not vegetarians or pescatarians) and get our protein from beans and that creates huge stores of methane. It is a joke, however this is not. The meat industries creates more ozone depleting gasses then all the cars & factories in the world does in a year. And all that use of petro to create fertilizers to feed those to be slaughtered and cow flatulances create almost 5% of ozone depleting gas!

Take that AL GORE!!!!!
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Old 03-03-2012, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Branford
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Nice job ignoring the rest of my post about the fallacies of nat gas an the huge domestic oil discoveries thy trump even nat gas.
I am just trying to share my experience of switching and let other's know to possibly save a TON of money. I suggest looking into if it's available in your area.
There are websites to check and see.

Yankee Gas
Yankee Gas - Home

Southern CT Gas
www.soconngas.com/

Oil is expensive to move and not going to get cheap anytime soon. Natural gas gets brought into CT by the Tennesee Gas Pipeline system.

Every indicator including federal studies shows its not going to go up in price anytime soon. Its cheap and getting cheaper. Bottom line I switched and saved a TON of money.
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Old 03-03-2012, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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I am just trying to share my experience of switching and let other's know to possibly save a TON of money. I suggest looking into if it's available in your area.
There are websites to check and see.

Yankee Gas
Yankee Gas - Home

Southern CT Gas
www.soconngas.com/

Oil is expensive to move and not going to get cheap anytime soon. Natural gas gets brought into CT by the Tennesee Gas Pipeline system.

Every indicator including federal studies shows its not going to go up in price anytime soon. Its cheap and getting cheaper. Bottom line I switched and saved a TON of money.
Just out of interest Brian, how much roughly, does it cost to convert?? Is it really expensive or does it pay for itself pretty quick with the savings your making on oil?? Thanks
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Old 03-03-2012, 10:32 AM
 
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Why don't you look at the huge investment recently made in cheniere to build an lng facility. There is tremendous arbitrage between nat gas prices domestically and abroad. In many places nat gas is above $10/Ccf. The LNG facility will help liquefy nat gas and allow it to be shipped abroad by large cargo vessels. Do you think the rush to sell to more expensive gas markets will keep prices low? There is no profit in drilling or selling gas now. Free enterprise will quickly remedy.
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