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Old 03-15-2019, 05:35 PM
 
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Are you saying Tennessee isn’t the oasis that some like to claim it is? Jay
When people talk about TN in the terms you’re referring to, it’s usually greater Nashville - which is booming and very beautiful. The entire state is a far cry from Memphis, the same way not all of CT is like the urban struggling cities.

 
Old 03-15-2019, 07:05 PM
 
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Assuming this is true, how much lower would our taxes be? Because IMO, any extra revenue received from the Feds would go to additional spending, not lowering taxes.
a/k/a to state employees.

Ct has a spending problem, not a revenue problem.

It already seizes too much of the productive private sectors wealth.
 
Old 03-15-2019, 07:37 PM
 
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When people talk about TN in the terms you’re referring to, it’s usually greater Nashville - which is booming and very beautiful. The entire state is a far cry from Memphis, the same way not all of CT is like the urban struggling cities.
BINGO. Most urban areas are horrible. Nashville is an exception, not the rule. Sadly, Memphis, like Bridgeport, and like Harlem where I depart my train daily, sadly remind us how destitute most of America's truly urban areas are. I remember just a few decades ago, while Bridgeport still buzzed with a very large manufacturing center. Fast forward a few decades and on a thread this week, many posters here were warning a poster to steer clear of the parts of Stratford next to Bridgeport.

Makes me happy to reside in a suburb, not a city.
 
Old 03-16-2019, 04:50 AM
 
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a/k/a to state employees.

Ct has a spending problem, not a revenue problem.

It already seizes too much of the productive private sectors wealth.

Not really. More than half the budget goes to social services and debt service. What the state has is a poor people problem.
 
Old 03-16-2019, 07:09 AM
 
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Not really. More than half the budget goes to social services and debt service. What the state has is a poor people problem.
Social services? LOL. How much for funding programs? How much for state social services staff? The latter is what they do not want you to ask about. Make you think it all goes to "the poor people".

I do agree with your last sentence. Weicker correctly talked of the "2 Connecticut's", and our cities have huge populations living in dire poverty.

As for debt service, yes Ct has had spending problems for decades, must pay massive interest on it now and forever. Agreed.
 
Old 03-16-2019, 07:25 AM
 
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Another way the state loses money with high taxes. Anyone that looks will find hundreds of this tax programs that actually hurt the state.

https://www.courant.com/news/connect...q6m-story.html


Boat registrations in Connecticut dropped from a peak of 112,319 in 2007 just before the Great Recession, down to 94,691 in 2017, a decrease of 15.7 percent.
 
Old 03-16-2019, 07:42 AM
 
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Social services? LOL. How much for funding programs? How much for state social services staff? The latter is what they do not want you to ask about. Make you think it all goes to "the poor people".

I do agree with your last sentence. Weicker correctly talked of the "2 Connecticut's", and our cities have huge populations living in dire poverty.

As for debt service, yes Ct has had spending problems for decades, must pay massive interest on it now and forever. Agreed.

Nice agenda but it doesn't align with the reality. Like any other blue state, Medicaid is the heavy hitter.


I don't know about Connecticut but in Massachusetts, Social Worker is pretty much the lowest paying job on the planet. In Social Services, also I'm lumping in bailing out public school systems in the failed cities.



Way more than half the budget goes to Social Services or for unfunded pensions/interest that was mostly spent on Social Services in prior years and wasn't funded properly. That's not just Connecticut.
 
Old 03-16-2019, 07:48 AM
 
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Nice agenda but it doesn't align with the reality. Like any other blue state, Medicaid is the heavy hitter.


I don't know about Connecticut but in Massachusetts, Social Worker is pretty much the lowest paying job on the planet. In Social Services, also I'm lumping in bailing out public school systems in the failed cities.



Way more than half the budget goes to Social Services or for unfunded pensions/interest that was mostly spent on Social Services in prior years and wasn't funded properly. That's not just Connecticut.
Ct social service employees get the same rich package of benefits all other state employees get.
 
Old 03-16-2019, 07:49 AM
 
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Another way the state loses money with high taxes. Anyone that looks will find hundreds of this tax programs that actually hurt the state.

https://www.courant.com/news/connect...q6m-story.html


Boat registrations in Connecticut dropped from a peak of 112,319 in 2007 just before the Great Recession, down to 94,691 in 2017, a decrease of 15.7 percent.
Great point.
 
Old 03-16-2019, 09:14 AM
 
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Ct social service employees get the same rich package of benefits all other state employees get.
Rich benefits? The state has reduced the benefits of state employees significantly over the years. I would not call them "rich". Jay
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