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Old 04-23-2018, 07:08 AM
 
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This is a very old thread. Are you saying there aren’t nice neighborhoods in these cities? Come on now, I would say you are wrong if so. Jay
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Violent crimes per 100k people

Hartford - 1,093
Connecticut - 227
National - 386

Hartford has a few nice neighborhoods but with an effective $22.29 (30% of $74.29) mill rate and a failed school system that makes shelling out for private schools mandatory, why would anyone pick a nice house on North Beacon or Terry Road by Elizabeth Park? A $10K property tax bill plus private school bills. You'd have to alarm and security camera your house like Fort Knox since property crime there is rampant. It's hard to sell your house because any prospective buyer is going to do the math and opt to buy 2 blocks west in West Hartford. There's also a really big risk that the residential property tax rate will see a large increase which would collapse your home equity.

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Old 04-23-2018, 07:27 AM
 
Location: New England
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I agree that politicians are too often corrupt and only out to help themselves. However, what cities have been run by "good politicians" that has gotten rid of crime, and bad neighborhoods? Giuliani reduced crime in NYC, but there were still bad neighborhoods, and murders and violent crime still took place.


As long as there people, there will be crime. So what is the best way to reduce crime, in my opinion our founders had it right, its up to the people to protect themselves. The police generally show up only after the crime has happened.


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For me, the problem is the leadership. If the Executive leaders of the city, town, or state stopped becoming corrupted, and going down the "slippery slope", our state, and our cities will be better. But like in many cases in our cities like Hartford, Bridgeport, Waterbury, our political leader, not always, but many times, become corrupted. We just have to do our homework when we vote, and make sure we DO vote. Don't vote do to their ethnecity,or gender, but because they are the best choice.
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Old 04-23-2018, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Connecticut
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Violent crimes per 100k people

Hartford - 1,093
Connecticut - 227
National - 386

Hartford has a few nice neighborhoods but with an effective $22.29 (30% of $74.29) mill rate and a failed school system that makes shelling out for private schools mandatory, why would anyone pick a nice house on North Beacon or Terry Road by Elizabeth Park? A $10K property tax bill plus private school bills. You'd have to alarm and security camera your house like Fort Knox since property crime there is rampant. It's hard to sell your house because any prospective buyer is going to do the math and opt to buy 2 blocks west in West Hartford. There's also a really big risk that the residential property tax rate will see a large increase which would collapse your home equity.
Actually because house prices and values are lower in Hartford, the taxes are not as high as you may think. A $500,000 home in the West End has taxes of about $10,000 which is comparable to what you would find in the suburbs. Below are a couple of examples. Still the schools do stink so this may not be for everyone. Jay

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sal...9_rect/13_zm/?

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sal...9_rect/13_zm/?

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sal...9_rect/13_zm/?

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Old 04-23-2018, 09:18 AM
 
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Actually because house prices and values are lower in Hartford, the taxes are not as high as you may think. A $500,000 home in the West End has taxes of about $10,000 which is comparable to what you would find in the suburbs. Below are a couple of examples. Still the schools do stink so this may not be for everyone. Jay

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sal...9_rect/13_zm/?

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sal...9_rect/13_zm/?

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sal...9_rect/13_zm/?
True.

That being said, the economic instability of the city should be enough to make any informed buyer look elsewhere. There is no way I’d ever invest my hard earned dollars in a municipality that’s in such financial disarray.

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Old 04-23-2018, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Coastal Connecticut
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Actually because house prices and values are lower in Hartford, the taxes are not as high as you may think. A $500,000 home in the West End has taxes of about $10,000 which is comparable to what you would find in the suburbs. Below are a couple of examples. Still the schools do stink so this may not be for everyone. Jay

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sal...9_rect/13_zm/?

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sal...9_rect/13_zm/?

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sal...9_rect/13_zm/?
Wow. Those are a lot of house for the money. Those same houses on St. Ronan area or Livingston St. by East Rock Park (which is basically New Haven's equivalent area to West End) would be double that price.

Examples:

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sal...6155_rid/globa
https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sal...04_rect/16_zm/

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sal...31_rect/16_zm/
https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sal...72_rect/16_zm/
https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sal...85_rect/16_zm/

It almost makes it seem like a bargain even with private school. Almost. For someone without kids in that area, that seems like a great option.
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Old 04-23-2018, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Northeast states
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Wow. Those are a lot of house for the money. Those same houses on St. Ronan area or Livingston St. by East Rock Park (which is basically New Haven's equivalent area to West End) would be double that price.

Examples:

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sal...6155_rid/globa
https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sal...04_rect/16_zm/

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sal...31_rect/16_zm/
https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sal...72_rect/16_zm/
https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sal...85_rect/16_zm/

It almost makes it seem like a bargain even with private school. Almost. For someone without kids in that area, that seems like a great option.
New Haven is starting point for NYC commute so prices going double that Hartford area. In Fairfield same home will be 1.9 million
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Old 04-23-2018, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Coastal Connecticut
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New Haven is starting point for NYC commute so prices going double that Hartford area. In Fairfield same home will be 1.9 million
If you can afford a $1 million home in New Haven, it's either a weekend home, or you're a wealthy affiliate (Dr. or otherwise) of Yale, or a little of both. No one's doing that commute when they have a choice.
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Old 04-23-2018, 06:29 PM
 
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Actually because house prices and values are lower in Hartford, the taxes are not as high as you may think. A $500,000 home in the West End has taxes of about $10,000 which is comparable to what you would find in the suburbs. Below are a couple of examples. Still the schools do stink so this may not be for everyone. Jay

[url]https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/Hartford-CT/pmf,pf_pt/57734188_zpid/5071_rid/400000-550000_price/1595-2192_mp/globalrelevanceex_sort/41.793488,-72.672114,41.753866,-72.745929_rect/13_zm/?[/url]

[url]https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/Hartford-CT/pmf,pf_pt/59075966_zpid/5071_rid/400000-550000_price/1595-2192_mp/globalrelevanceex_sort/41.793456,-72.672115,41.753833,-72.745929_rect/13_zm/?[/url]

[url]https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/Hartford-CT/pmf,pf_pt/58141444_zpid/5071_rid/400000-550000_price/1595-2192_mp/globalrelevanceex_sort/41.793456,-72.672115,41.753833,-72.745929_rect/13_zm/?[/url]
Two of those houses have been on the market for more than one year so they are overpriced and clearly hard to sell
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Old 04-27-2018, 12:39 PM
 
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As far as safety goes, live in the city if you want to be safe. The suburbs are far more dangerous. Not even a hot take: studies back this up. The chances of getting shot in the city are far less than the chances of getting into an accident on the highway while commuting to or from the suburbs.

Schools? Yes the suburbs win. Safety? Another story.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=91658&page=1

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Old 04-27-2018, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Connecticut
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As far as safety goes, live in the city if you want to be safe. The suburbs are far more dangerous. Not even a hot take: studies back this up. The chances of getting shot in the city are far less than the chances of getting into an accident on the highway while commuting to or from the suburbs.

Schools? Yes the suburbs win. Safety? Another story.

You May Be Safer Living in the City - ABC News
Sorry but I don't buy that. I think it depends on the suburbs and the city they are near. Jay
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