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Old 04-16-2014, 09:23 PM
 
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There's a rowing team in Old Lyme (maybe East Lyme) on Roger's Lake. And there is a men's New London County Rugby Club, but not sue if there's a woman's side yet.

Congrats on your new job! This part of CT of pretty sleepy, but I'd probably say moving to Stonington/Mystic as a young professional would be pretty good. It's more vibrant but not as obnoxious as some other areas of the state.
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Old 04-17-2014, 09:15 AM
 
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Groton is not an urban area at all. New London definitely is. Choosing between them, New London is actively unsafe in many parts, whereas Groton is largely middle-class and dramatically safer. There's no comparison.

For example, New London always has at least 1, and usually 2 or 3, murders per year. Groton hasn't had a murder for 10 years. New London has roughly fifteen times the number of robberies as Groton and more than thirty times the number of assaults.
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Old 04-17-2014, 10:22 AM
 
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Not sure where you're getting your statistics from, but for 2012, according to the published statistics from the state:

there were 12 reported rapes in Groton, 10 in New London.
45 robberies in New London, but only 10 in Groton. A big difference, but not by a factor of 15
Aggravated assault is 308 in New London, 42 in Groton. A big difference, but a factor of 7, not more than 30
Burglary is 183 in New London, 83 in Groton, again, not a factor of 15.
Larceny is 515 in New London, 686 in Groton
Motor Vehicle theft - 66 in New London, 35 in Groton

Groton had murders reported in 2010, three in 2008 and three more in 2006, and three more in 2004. So, not exactly no murders in 10 years. 10 in Groton vs 16 in New London from 2004-2010.

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Old 04-17-2014, 10:54 AM
 
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I'm getting data from this website, Citi-Data. According to this website, New London has dramatically higher crime rates in every single category of crime than the national average. To the contrary, Groton has dramatically lower crime rates in every single category of crime than the national average.

But if you don't trust this website, according to Neighborhood Scout, New London has 13.25 violent crimes per year per 1000 residents, compared to Groton's 1.65. That's a violent crime rate that is 8 times higher.

Here's a report from a local newspaper describing the serious and increasing crime problem in New London, from this February: The Day - Serious crime up in New London, statistics show | News from southeastern Connecticut

Note that this serious disparity between New London and Groton exists even though Groton has a huge Naval submarine base within its borders. You must not be familiar with the area.

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Groton had murders reported in 2010, three in 2008 and three more in 2006, and three more in 2004. So, not exactly no murders in 10 years. 10 in Groton vs 16 in New London from 2004-2010.
Source? My parents live in Noank, and a murder would be HUGE news since they rarely occur. The last murder I can remember was some drug related crime that took place on a yacht docked in Mystic, and I think that technically in Stonington.

Citi data and other crime compilers have missed all of these murders, as Citidata shows the last murder in Groton occurring in 2004.
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Old 04-17-2014, 01:45 PM
 
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The Connecticut Department of Public Safety:

CT UCR

I'd take their word over neighborhood scout

You might not be familiar with the area (you also claimed East Lyme was filled with big box stores a few months back, when that was nearby Waterford). Groton is comprised of the Town of Groton, the City of Groton, as well as Groton Long Point. You need to combine those three together to get the crime rate for Groton. Now, if you say Groton Long Point has little crime, there I would definitely agree with you. Even the City of Groton has a fairly low crime rate, but the Town of Groton is a lot higher.
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Old 04-17-2014, 02:54 PM
 
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New London and Norwich is like baby waterbury.
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Old 04-18-2014, 07:57 AM
 
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Kelo v. The City of New London (aka the Little Pink House) is one of the most famous land use cases we were taught in school... interesting case law. I just hope that folks in the area are open to planning- or at least understand why its there (to protect YOU & the environment while guiding local land-use development in responsible/sustainable ways). However, sometimes planning can awry. Kelo is a good example.

As far as an area to settle in- am thinking New London- its busy, but not too busy- close to the beach, and things to do after work. I hope its safe, walkable, and fun.
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Old 04-18-2014, 08:11 AM
 
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Kelo v. The City of New London (aka the Little Pink House) is one of the most famous land use cases we were taught in school... interesting case law. I just hope that folks in the area are open to planning- or at least understand why its there (to protect YOU & the environment while guiding local land-use development in responsible/sustainable ways). However, sometimes planning can awry. Kelo is a good example.

As far as an area to settle in- am thinking New London- its busy, but not too busy- close to the beach, and things to do after work. I hope its safe, walkable, and fun.
As I said above, I think downtown New London is fine during the daytime, but I would not be so sure in the evenings. I've ventured down to Sarge's on State Street several times on weeknights and never felt threatened or out of place.

But, I'm also a married guy in my mid 40s, so I'm not going to be going there late at night, and I'm also living a few towns over from New London.
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Old 04-18-2014, 10:08 AM
 
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Safe, walkable and fun ? No, not really.

New London south of Lawrence and Memorial Hospital is walkable and fairly safe. Keep in mind " south of the hospital" and keep saying that to yourself. North of the hospital , sketchy to scary. Even then, be careful at night. Also keep in mind that you can walk to the beach, but there is not anything else to walk to. No shops, no stores, nothing cutesy or artsy. Just a few streets, Ocean, Montauk & lower Pequot Aves. that lead to the water.

There is a small bar/ restaurant scene in the area around Bank & State Streets. It's OK during the day as long as you keep your radar up. That area is surrounded by really dreadful neighborhoods. At night go in a group, not as a woman alone.
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Old 05-07-2014, 05:25 PM
 
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Hey CeleryStick,

I am a male in my late 20s originally from Eastern CT (& hope to move back). I have worked in Norwich and know the scene pretty well.

If you have a car I would definitely recommend Mystic for what you are looking for. As a 20something, I would even choose it over Old Saybrook. As a local I can tell you definitively this is where people your age like to spend their time, and it would be where I would live if I was currently in the area. Mystic has plenty of events and activities and you should be able to meet people pretty easily. People in that area are very active and athletic so rowing shouldn't be a problem for you to find, nor should any other boating or sporting event - I definitely see it as a great way to meet people. I see you said you are over the bar scene but meet people that way too. I don't know what you're used to but I find people very laid back and friendly in the area. The scene is more chill and drink a beer and watch a live band; no dance clubs outside of the casinos! The only somewhat negative is that it gets PACKED with tourists in the summer.

I personally love Norwich but I could see it harder for a 20somethings to make friends and become acclimated there. I would not consider Norwich dangerous at all and there are some great spots (Norwich Golf Course, Ice Rink, Dodd Stadium, Marina, Norwich Bowling, Slater Museum, Spirit of Broadway...) but none are walking distance from downtown and, other than the line outside the courthouse, downtown can be pretty dead. I will say that the people of Norwich are very invested in their community and you should easily be able to find civic groups to join. I can bet through your work you will quickly meet someone whose family has been in Norwich forever and can tell you more than you want to know about "the Rose of New England." The Greater Norwich Area Chamber of Commerce (GNACC) and the NCDC (maybe you're working for them?) are very active and I am sure they would love to help out a young, civic minded individual. I can promise if you show you take pride in their community they will be eager to help you get acclimated. The only negative is that the citizenry of Norwich is a bit older so you might have to try a little harder to meet people your age. Downtown Norwich has all the potential in the world to become vibrant - I hope you help make that happen.

I am sorry to say I would not move to New London. In fact, it would be the last place in Southeastern CT I would recommend. The area is improving but it has a long way to go in terms of safety and living enjoyment. Mystic will give you something to do any time of the day and is my bar scene of choice (as it is for the vast majority of local 20somethings) but the occassion that I go out to a bar in New London I can tell you definitively that the only other girls are those who tagged along with their boyfriends and the guys are seedy. Girls do not feel safe there, nor do most people when the sun goes down. So even if you did live there, you would not be meeting people. In Mystic you will find a good mix of men and women, single and involved, and you would be happy to walk out of your apartment and over to main street any time of the day.

Hope this helps and if you want any specifics, I'll try to check back in. Good luck and I hope you like the area.
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