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Old 05-11-2014, 07:58 PM
 
Location: Connecticut
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The World Trade Center would be put in Hartford. Many 30-50 story skyscrapers were supposed to be built with many towers demolished. Most of the sites remain vacant today.

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Also, the New England Patriots might of built a stadium in Hartford. What do y'all think Hartford would be like if all these ideas were built and the Patriots moved to Hartford? Do you think Hartford would have annexed West Hartford?
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Old 05-11-2014, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Coastal Connecticut
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A World Trade Center, not the.
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Old 05-11-2014, 08:58 PM
 
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Who would believe Kraft was ever moving the Pats to Hartford ? Hartford's got 125,000 people more or less. It's not really suitable in numbers for a major league team. Kraft was just playing around to get a new stadium in MA.

Hartford cannot annex anything ever. Annexation can only happen if a city takes over unincorporated area. CT has no unincorporated area. Every inch of land belongs to one of our 169 towns/cities/ Indian reservations.
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Old 05-11-2014, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Wallingford, CT
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Hartford cannot annex anything ever. Annexation can only happen if a city takes over unincorporated area. CT has no unincorporated area. Every inch of land belongs to one of our 169 towns/cities/ Indian reservations.
One of the only states where this is the case. Or is it the only? I don't remember.
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Old 05-11-2014, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Connecticut
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Y'all dont get it. Everything in 1995 was built and what would Hartford be like today.
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Old 05-11-2014, 09:57 PM
 
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MA, NJ, PA, RI also have no unincorporated area.
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Old 05-11-2014, 10:11 PM
 
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Who would believe Kraft was ever moving the Pats to Hartford ? Hartford's got 125,000 people more or less. It's not really suitable in numbers for a major league team. Kraft was just playing around to get a new stadium in MA.

Hartford cannot annex anything ever. Annexation can only happen if a city takes over unincorporated area. CT has no unincorporated area. Every inch of land belongs to one of our 169 towns/cities/ Indian reservations.
the Hartford metro area is bigger than:
Green Bay
Buffalo
Salt Lake City
Raleigh

All of them have pro sports teams.

Hartford is barely smaller than the New Orleans & Oklahoma City metro areas.

Not to mention that the Hartford metro area borders on another pretty large metro area in New Haven...

Agreed on Kraft playing CT to try to get a new stadium in Mass, but CT has the population density to support a pro sports team. The bigger problem is that much of our state is already committed to Yankees/Red Sox in baseball, Pats/Jets/Giants in football, Celtic/Knicks in basketball (not to mention UConn), etc. It's not like popping a football team in Jacksonville, Florida when Atlanta and Tampa Bay are each several hours drive away, not 90 minutes to 2 hours like NYC and Boston.
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Old 05-11-2014, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Hartford, CT
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MA, NJ, PA, RI also have no unincorporated area.
I think every state in the northeast has no unincorporated area except for Maine. I could be wrong though. Same with MD and DE. Heck, maybe even Ohio.
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Old 05-11-2014, 10:45 PM
 
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I'm trying to answer the OP's question on how Hartford itself was going to benefit and how it would be today. The question wasn't if the region could support a sports team.

From what I remember from scratching my brain about the potential Patriots move ( and I'm too lazy to look it up ) it was proposed to be something like this.

The state was going to sell bonds to build a stadium. To keep investors happy, the state would own the stadium. For federal tax purposes someone other than the state or the city of Hartford would own the land. The property would be exempt from city of Hartford property taxes. Hartford itself was pretty much cut out of the actual stadium deal. Hartford is a little city. The way the pie was being cut, no one was looking to benefit the city.

An annexation of West Hartford was a non-starter and was just not possible.
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Old 05-11-2014, 10:46 PM
 
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Willow wind is technically wrong. Annexation can take place with the consent of a majority of the town being annexed. Boston annexed several towns in just that way--the voters saw greater advantages to being part of the city. Brooklyn, NY too-- and a close vote it was back in 1898. But all that is a long time ago when cities were growing fast and smaller places saw advantages to joining forces. Today it is very difficult to imagine any scenario in which a majority of West Hartford voters would see an advantage to becoming part of Hartford.
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