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Old 02-12-2015, 03:44 PM
 
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"Malloy is proposing legislation to block businesses from forbidding employees to disclose their wages".........


Malloy offers measure to end ‘pay secrecy’ | The CT Mirror
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Old 02-12-2015, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Northern Fairfield Co.
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How about he focuses on ways to facilitate the creation of jobs, instead of this crap...
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Old 02-12-2015, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Southwestern Connecticut
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This would be interesting as my employer strictly prohibits talking about wages and it's in our code of ethics or something that we sign when getting hired so currently if someone is found to have talked to others about their wages, it would be grounds for termination.
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Old 02-12-2015, 10:21 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Good! I've been saying this for years. Every employee in EVERY company should know how much EVERYONE else is making, in order to enforce fairness of pay in the workplace. This new legislation would be applicable to me, since I'm always curious how much others are making, and they have a right to know how much I'm making, too.

I am so happy that I voted for him now.
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Old 02-12-2015, 10:32 PM
 
Location: Coastal Connecticut
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Every employee in EVERY company should know how much EVERYONE else is making, in order to enforce fairness of pay in the workplace.
No. That would just cause drama and resentment, and could demotivate junior employees.

Also, it's no one's damn business.
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Old 02-12-2015, 11:22 PM
 
Location: Florida
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No. That would just cause drama and resentment, and could demotivate junior employees.

Also, it's no one's damn business.
It is absolutely everyone's business and should be. There is no reason why pay should be so secretive. There's no pay secrecy in the public sector, so why should there be pay secrecy in the private sector. I would have NO problem if others knew how much I was getting paid. If that bothers someone, then they need to get a life. Pay should be nothing to hide. There's no reason to hide it. I reveal my pay all the time on these forums and it's no big deal. I make a salary of $75,000 plus 20% bonus.

I think it's disgusting that companies make it a policy to not share your salary with other employees. It's kind of like a slavery tactic to avoid having to pay their employees fairly.

End pay secrecy NOW!

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Old 02-13-2015, 04:07 AM
 
Location: Ubique
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It is absolutely everyone's business and should be. There is no reason why pay should be so secretive. There's no pay secrecy in the public sector, so why should there be pay secrecy in the private sector. I would have NO problem if others knew how much I was getting paid. If that bothers someone, then they need to get a life. Pay should be nothing to hide. There's no reason to hide it. I reveal my pay all the time on these forums and it's no big deal. I make a salary of $75,000 plus 20% bonus.

I think it's disgusting that companies make it a policy to not share your salary with other employees. It's kind of like a slavery tactic to avoid having to pay their employees fairly.

End pay secrecy NOW!

The guy just told you "it's none of your business" how much he makes, so listen dude. He also told you -- there are many reasons for pay to be secretive.

There is a big difference between public employees from private ones -- you and I pay public employees. But I don't pay you, and you don't pay me.

First people are not slaves. They are adults who enter into agreements with their employers on their free will. If you don't like the pay secrecy clause of your employment handbook, go work elsewhere.

Most people have a life, and don't need you to butt into theirs, so maybe it should be you and others like-minded that should get a life and leave people alone.

That's what is truly disgusting.

Malloy and his ilk squeezes businesses and people with more and more demands, rules, insanity, while they are some of the worst managers in the country, so telling others what to do. And we wonder -- gee, why does our economy suck? Gee, why do people GTFO?

Why is always the least competent telling others how to do their jobs? How is that the least creative, and the least accomplished want to be masterminds of society?
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Old 02-13-2015, 05:50 AM
 
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I personally do not discuss my salary with others but I cannot fathom working for an employer who would tell me that I could not disclose the figure if I chose to do so.

What is the business argument for limiting an employee's free speech? I'm truly curious. Would it cause drama? Possibly. Sure it might demotivate some but could it not also motivate a determined junior employee to work harder to achieve a higher level of pay? I know that would motivate me.
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Old 02-13-2015, 06:07 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I personally do not discuss my salary with others but I cannot fathom working for an employer who would tell me that I could not disclose the figure if I chose to do so.

What is the business argument for limiting an employee's free speech? I'm truly curious. Would it cause drama? Possibly. Sure it might demotivate some but could it not also motivate a determined junior employee to work harder to achieve a higher level of pay? I know that would motivate me.
Yes. This is how I feel about it as well. I don't talk about salary with my coworkers myself, but WHY should it be company policy to ban talking about it?

Personally though, I think it should be taken a step further so that everyone's pay is disclosed to everyone in the company. It helps enforce fairness. I mean, there's NO reason why someone else should be getting paid more than me for doing the same job.
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Old 02-13-2015, 06:19 AM
 
Location: Northern Fairfield Co.
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It is absolutely everyone's business and should be. There is no reason why pay should be so secretive. There's no pay secrecy in the public sector, so why should there be pay secrecy in the private sector. I would have NO problem if others knew how much I was getting paid. If that bothers someone, then they need to get a life.
This right here is why I generally despise the under 30 crowd and why IMO they are destined for a lifetime of mediocrity. No value at all is placed on the individual - everything must be shared and co-experienced with their fellow confused (and dependent) sheeple. It's so refreshing to meet one who bucks this trend and when I do, it does gives me hope. Unfortunately they are few and far between these days. I have no doubt though... the ones who aren't drinking this new flavor of Kool-Aid, are the ones who will be successful in life and will be the leaders of tomorrow.

My husband and I go out of our way (daily!) to counter this trend at home with our own boys. Basic life lessons are given at every opportunity we find by exposing them to age appropriate risk/reward concepts, and yes, even disappointment. (Even if we see the disappointment coming from a mile away, we will sit back and let it happen because it's something they will need to learn to deal with later in life.) My hope is that the pendulum will have swung back to a more sane and center point by the time they come of age. We shall see...

Anyway, back to point: what kind of ass at the office would it take to EVER think it was remotely appropriate to ask about your salary?

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