[Stylo]

Has anyone seen this?

The CT20x17 Campaign | Make CT a Top 20 Economy by 2017

Seems like a lofty goal to achieve in 2 years, but good to see they're fighting the good fight.

[mlassoff]

Originally Posted by Stylo

Has anyone seen this?

The CT20x17 Campaign | Make CT a Top 20 Economy by 2017

Seems like a lofty goal to achieve in 2 years, but good to see they're fighting the good fight.

Who's "They"?

They're a trade group comprised of local COCs that's trying to organize people to put pressure on government to legislate in favor of business' interests. I want Connecticut to be more business friendly too, but, not at the expense of our QOL and social safety net...

There are definitely areas where we can improve. Capitalizing on our roots in biotech, insurance and finance and developing an innovation system around those would be a great start.

[cj06117]

Originally Posted by Stylo

Has anyone seen this?

The CT20x17 Campaign | Make CT a Top 20 Economy by 2017

Seems like a lofty goal to achieve in 2 years, but good to see they're fighting the good fight.

I like dreaming too. It makes the day go by faster and easier. Not much is going to change with the strong CT welfare base. Government is not interested in new solutions just in trying to avoid a budget slaughter for their bloated programs. State will be in continued decline for next decade at least.

[Mr_250]

Originally Posted by mlassoff

Who's "They"?

They're a trade group comprised of local COCs that's trying to organize people to put pressure on government to legislate in favor of business' interests. I want Connecticut to be more business friendly too, but, not at the expense of our QOL and social safety net...

There are definitely areas where we can improve. Capitalizing on our roots in biotech, insurance and finance and developing an innovation system around those would be a great start.

Do you think the current administration is hurting CT QOL and safety net with the cuts they are making in this budget and the upcoming budget? I do. When I see cuts to our Veterans aid or elderly or even town parks those are all areas that keeps CT in the top when it comes to QOL. They are cutting some social programs that mean a great deal to a number of people all in the name of saving face.

They plan to cut pheasant hunting which I do. Its a QOL reduction in my book. The state actually doesn't pay for ANY of the funding for this season. The funding comes from an extra tax on permits and licenses that we (hunters) pay into so we don't cost the state more money. They plan on getting rid of that whole season. Little things like that do not show an increase in QOL.

Some of the new laws are the total opposite of what this campaign is for. HB6791 is actually a penalty on businesses that don't pay workers $15/hr (even though min wage is $10.10. its a long bill and includes more). Things like that do not show that CT is open for business.

Here is a link that show all the proposed cuts. Tracking the budget: Following the fate of Malloy’s proposed cuts | The CT Mirror

I'm all for saving a dollar, but you can only cut so much. Let's figure out how to increase revenue (without taxing people and/or businesses).

[mlassoff]

Originally Posted by Mr_250

Do you think the current administration is hurting CT QOL and safety net with the cuts they are making in this budget and the upcoming budget? I do. When I see cuts to our Veterans aid or elderly or even town parks those are all areas that keeps CT in the top when it comes to QOL. They are cutting some social programs that mean a great deal to a number of people all in the name of saving face.

They plan to cut pheasant hunting which I do. Its a QOL reduction in my book. The state actually doesn't pay for ANY of the funding for this season. The funding comes from an extra tax on permits and licenses that we (hunters) pay into so we don't cost the state more money. They plan on getting rid of that whole season. Little things like that do not show an increase in QOL.

Some of the new laws are the total opposite of what this campaign is for. HB6791 is actually a penalty on businesses that don't pay workers $15/hr (even though min wage is $10.10. its a long bill and includes more). Things like that do not show that CT is open for business.

Here is a link that show all the proposed cuts. Tracking the budget: Following the fate of Malloy’s proposed cuts | The CT Mirror

I'm all for saving a dollar, but you can only cut so much. Let's figure out how to increase revenue (without taxing people and/or businesses).

I'm no fan of the current administration, and, yes I agree that the cuts proposed will be injurious to QOL. I'm not a hunter, but I don't see any reason to cute pheasant hunting.

[MrGompers]

Originally Posted by Mr_250

Some of the new laws are the total opposite of what this campaign is for. HB6791 is actually a penalty on businesses that don't pay workers $15/hr (even though min wage is $10.10. its a long bill and includes more). Things like that do not show that CT is open for business.

I didn't read the article, but if what you wrote above is true it's not going to work because CT is only one of 50 states and the third smallest at that. If this was a national policy it might work and it may help end the state vs state competition we are seeing with tax breaks and other relocation deals.

There's no way something like this would become a national policy so CT might as well drop it.

[Stylo]

Originally Posted by mlassoff

They're a trade group comprised of local COCs that's trying to organize people to put pressure on government to legislate in favor of business' interests. I want Connecticut to be more business friendly too, but, not at the expense of our QOL and social safety net...

Wouldn't a stronger economy and more business mean a higher QOL and less of a need for a social safety net?

[mlassoff]

Originally Posted by Stylo

Wouldn't a stronger economy and more business mean a higher QOL and less of a need for a social safety net?

Or could it mean further division between rich and poor as the poor continue to get exploited for the benefit of the rich?

Ah, yes! The wonders of trickle-down economics!

[cj06117]

Originally Posted by mlassoff

Or could it mean further division between rich and poor as the poor continue to get exploited for the benefit of the rich?

Ah, yes! The wonders of trickle-down economics!

Many of poor who are receiving benefits do not want to be entrepreneurs or develop wealth. Many are perfectly content doing nothing or the bare minimum while collecting money from the tax money of others. I see this every day. Problem is many of the liberals live in the neighborhoods where they don't see the waste and have delusions that the programs are helping people. America wasn't intended to be a risk free society by our founding fathers. Now it has become a place where you can be rewarded for doing nothing but collect. CT is the capital of this mentality.

Sad thing is the people working and paying into the system are going this see their QOL decline whole the benefit collecting group remains untouched.

A lot of entrepreneurial minded people will move ....imho

[mlassoff]

Originally Posted by cj06117

Many of poor who are receiving benefits do not want to be entrepreneurs or develop wealth. Many are perfectly content doing nothing or the bare minimum while collecting money from the tax money of others. I see this every day. Problem is many of the liberals live in the neighborhoods where they don't see the waste and have delusions that the programs are helping people. America wasn't intended to be a risk free society by our founding fathers. Now it has become a place where you can be rewarded for doing nothing but collect. CT is the capital of this mentality.

As an actual entrepreneur, I can agree that many of the poor-- and many of the working-- don't want to be entrepreneurs. It's a high risk path that certainly leads to bust more often than boom.

If living on welfare is so wonderful and enriching, why don't you do it? The fact is most people on welfare are children or elderly. They should be going to school or are too old too work. There are certainly many able-bodied who collect, and that's an abuse. But this idea of "rewarded for doing nothing" is a bastardization of the social safety net and an affront to the many good people who need and deserve assistance.

Originally Posted by cj06117

Sad thing is the people working and paying into the system are going this see their QOL decline whole the benefit collecting group remains untouched.

A lot of entrepreneurial minded people will move ....imho

This certainly doesn't seem to echo what's actually going on in society where the rich are getting progressively richer and the poor, more and more, stuck in poverty.