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Old 04-27-2015, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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I'd like to see the pie chart and actual resources for your statistics.

For instance:

Have you interviewed 90% of people who moved out of CT? If not, can you please cite your sample demographic?

And that 95% of comments - you do understand that those news pages are generated based on your personal web browsing patterns. So if you spend 95% of your time reading articles about how much Connecticut sucks, you will get news articles that support your opinion, and very few articles that contradict it. If you can demonstrate that this isn't true, please support your fact with sources.

That 90% or more of the vast majority of people who have been happy they left Connecticut - have you interviewed them to find out WHY they left? You specify "the South," "Florida," "North Carolina," and "Texas" as the destinations. What do these states have in common, that make them different from Connecticut?

Here's a blaringly obvious difference: the climate. ALL of those places are demonstrably warmer than Connecticut, for most of the year. In ALL of those places, the cold season is significantly shorter, AND less extreme, than it is in Connecticut.

That says to me that people are moving to warmer places because Connecticut just gets too cold for them. Retirees typically move south, when they move at all, because of that very reason.

So what do you think Connecticut can do to retain all these people who are tired of Connecticut winters? Oh maybe we can build a geothermal dome over the state and create an artificial springtime all year round.
The news pages are just pages that I "like" on Facebook. It has nothing to do with which sites I clicked on or whatever. For example, this morning there was a new WFSB post about gas prices set to skyrocket in CT, and within minutes NUMEROUS people pile on and make posts about how much CT sucks and how Malloy is the worst governor, etc. And how they can't wait to move out of CT, etc.

As for the 90%, I am just going by anecdotal evidence of people and friends that I know who left CT, as well as people who post on Facebook comments to news threads. Almost all of them are glad they did and have no intent to return. So, in essence, that is an interview of a handful of people who left. It's something.

In other words, I NEVER hear anyone say, "I really want to move back to Connecticut."
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Old 04-27-2015, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Oxford, CT
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When I moved to Florida from CT there were a couple of years where I felt that I was glad to leave. I felt CT was this horrid wasteland. It didn't take long afterwards to realize how wrong I really was! There's definitely some downsides in CT and I can see why people would want to leave but after living on "the other side" I've learned a bit.

CT has character, good wages, good food, near immediate access to MA and NY and is more closely aligned politically with my views than Florida ever was (or pretty much anywhere in the south really!).
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Old 04-27-2015, 08:39 AM
 
Location: USA
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The news pages are just pages that I "like" on Facebook. It has nothing to do with which sites I clicked on or whatever. For example, this morning there was a new WFSB post about gas prices set to skyrocket in CT, and within minutes NUMEROUS people pile on and make posts about how much CT sucks and how Malloy is the worst governor, etc. And how they can't wait to move out of CT, etc.

As for the 90%, I am just going by anecdotal evidence of people and friends that I know who left CT. Almost all of them are glad they did and have no intent to return. So, in essence, that is an interview of a handful of people who left. It's something.
Yup because apparently Malloy controls the cost of gas....WHAT?!

Here's the cycle i see..

Whenever something gets more expensive and people pay more (even if it has nothing to do with Malloy) people complain. People say lower our taxes.

and...

When people want their roads fixed and the state doesn't doesnt have enough money. They complain.

How are they going to pay for it if you want them to lower taxes?
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Old 04-27-2015, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Yup because apparently Malloy controls the cost of gas....WHAT?!

Here's the cycle i see..

Whenever something gets more expensive and people pay more (even if it has nothing to do with Malloy) people complain. People say lower our taxes.

and...

When people want their roads fixed and the state doesn't doesnt have enough money. They complain.

How are they going to pay for it if you want them to lower taxes?
Yeah you are right. There is no such state that has good schools, good roads, low taxes and good business climate at the same time.
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Old 04-27-2015, 08:57 AM
 
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Yeah you are right. There is no such state that has good schools, good roads, low taxes and good business climate at the same time.
Right. I can't think of one place that does.

Another one is that a majority of people don't want tolls and fail to understand that our existing system does not work. I understand that you don't want to pay more. I actually watched a clip back in 1985 when the tolls were eliminated. WFSB interviewed people about what they thought about removing the tolls. Everyone in that clip said it was the best move ever because they can save more money. They did not understand that over time the state will lose more and more money to fund on the roads you drive on. This is becoming just as big as an issue as the introduction of the infamous INCOME TAX.
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Old 04-27-2015, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Connecticut
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Wow, a lot of good objective posts here. Glad to see that.

Nep321, I have not seen a lot of people that are truly happy they left the state completely. There are some I know that are but I would say the majority are not. They realize that no place is perfect and that with every good thing you get there is a bad thing to counterbalance it. It is all personal preference.

Funny I just this weekend saw two old friends and we chatted about where we were living. One had moved to New Hampshire several years ago because they thought it would be wonderful to live where they loved to vacation. He said it is nice but just another place to live now. Working is working no matter where you live. It is the drudgery of having a job that is what most people dislike and where you do that does not really make a lot of difference.

Another friend lived out of state for several years and then returned to the suburbs. A couple of years ago they moved to downtown Bridgeport and believe it or not he not loves it. He says it is interesting, loves have a bunch of different restaurants nearby and things are always changing mostly for the better. Go figure. Jay
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Old 04-27-2015, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Coastal Northeast
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It depends who you ask. For me, I left and loved where I was. It was amazing to get away from the snow and cold. I will say I did miss many things about CT.

Most people I know who left after high school ended up coming back to raise a family. Reasons for this are mixed. Some liked the quality of life, some wanted to be near family, some just happened to come back due to work reasons. I also know a number of people who moved away and would never return. I will also say that I work with a number of people who are planning retirement in other states.

As others have noted, it's personal preference. I will say, the way I feel now, I'll leave CT after retirement and not look back. Last thin I want to do when I'm elderly is shovel snow and blow leaves.
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Old 04-27-2015, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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It depends who you ask. For me, I left and loved where I was. It was amazing to get away from the snow and cold. I will say I did miss many things about CT.

Most people I know who left after high school ended up coming back to raise a family. Reasons for this are mixed. Some liked the quality of life, some wanted to be near family, some just happened to come back due to work reasons. I also know a number of people who moved away and would never return. I will also say that I work with a number of people who are planning retirement in other states.

As others have noted, it's personal preference. I will say, the way I feel now, I'll leave CT after retirement and not look back. Last thin I want to do when I'm elderly is shovel snow and blow leaves.
But more elderly deaths occur from heat strokes than anything related to winter troubles. My grandparents in West Hartford are in their 80's and they're still surviving.

IMO anyone who can't retire in CT is "doing it wrong." Either they did a bad job at saving for retirement during their life, or they're being too nitpicky about that extra $500 a year lost out on taxed Social Security benefits....some of which is even further diminished because of higher homeowners insurance costs in Florida.
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Old 04-27-2015, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Coastal Connecticut
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I could never retire in a place like Florida. Aside from the humidity in the summer, the lack of cultural outlets and the chains/sprawl would drive me nuts. I want stimulation of the mind and opportunities to explore when I'm older.

Maybe a place like Charleston or Northern VA with some history would work.
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Old 04-27-2015, 11:18 AM
 
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I'd like to see the pie chart and actual resources for your statistics.

For instance:

Have you interviewed 90% of people who moved out of CT? If not, can you please cite your sample demographic?

And that 95% of comments - you do understand that those news pages are generated based on your personal web browsing patterns. So if you spend 95% of your time reading articles about how much Connecticut sucks, you will get news articles that support your opinion, and very few articles that contradict it. If you can demonstrate that this isn't true, please support your fact with sources.

That 90% or more of the vast majority of people who have been happy they left Connecticut - have you interviewed them to find out WHY they left? You specify "the South," "Florida," "North Carolina," and "Texas" as the destinations. What do these states have in common, that make them different from Connecticut?

Here's a blaringly obvious difference: the climate. ALL of those places are demonstrably warmer than Connecticut, for most of the year. In ALL of those places, the cold season is significantly shorter, AND less extreme, than it is in Connecticut.

That says to me that people are moving to warmer places because Connecticut just gets too cold for them. Retirees typically move south, when they move at all, because of that very reason.

So what do you think Connecticut can do to retain all these people who are tired of Connecticut winters? Oh maybe we can build a geothermal dome over the state and create an artificial springtime all year round.
I don't buy the weather thing. If taxes/COL here were the same as the south nobody would move. Its mostly about the cost of living...
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