[reason180]

The facts speak for themselves……70% of all drug purchases on the East Side were made by non-Bridgeport residents. That is a large scale daily invasion of suburban criminals! Imagine if it was the other way around….imagine if a large amount of people from the inner city were driving to a neighborhood in the ‘burbs and committing crimes on a daily basis. That hasn’t happened.

Thank you suburbs.

End of discussion.

[Srib]

Originally Posted by reason180

The facts speak for themselves……70% of all drug purchases on the East Side were made by non-Bridgeport residents. That is a large scale daily invasion of suburban criminals! Imagine if it was the other way around….imagine if a large amount of people from the inner city were driving to a neighborhood in the ‘burbs and committing crimes on a daily basis. That hasn’t happened.

Thank you suburbs.

End of discussion.

Seriously you need to let it go. Several of us have poked a ton of holes in your "statistic" if you can call it that. You also just added more BS to your comments by saying its "A DAILY INVASION"....where in your "stat" does it say it happens daily? You're right - end of discussion, because this has gone on long enough. If you're going to prove a point have your numbers and sources aligned before you come on here and post gibberish. You'd save some of us a lot of time correcting incorrect information.

[reason180]

Originally Posted by Srib

You also just added more BS to your comments by saying its "A DAILY INVASION"....where in your "stat" does it say it happens daily?

This is a joke right???? Do you really think law enforcement would put jersey barriers to block off certain streets by the exit ramp of I-95 because people were not passing through there on a daily basis in large numbers to purchase narcotics????? Some of those gangs made millions of dollars!


Lock this thread and throw away the key…………..it gets worse post by post.

[KH02]

Or how about using the thread for what i started it for instead of arguing over something unrelated!

[reason180]

Originally Posted by KH02

Or how about using the thread for what i started it for instead of arguing over something unrelated!

Good idea. Sorry about that.

A little debate never hurt anybody.

[paule]

Originally Posted by Srib

While the jury is still out in some circles - the majority of Portuguese people from mainland portugal consider themselves caucasian. While I don't want to get into a long dissertation on race, the Iberian peninsula was split into Hispania and Lusitania, Lusitania being current day portugal. A google search will provide plenty of details or arguments depending on the view. Italians would tell you the same.

It is funny that you mention Italians and Portuguese, because I am 50/50, Italian and Portuguese. It really doesn't matter where in Europe you come from, as long as you identify with the thread of society through which you can gain power and opportunity in the U.S.. In no way, shape, or form are either Italians or Portuguese, "White" though, until they identified with the opportunities and culture which gave them that identity, that is was my point. Thomas Jefferson's "Notes on the State of Virginia", should reflect a more nuanced look at the issues which continue to plague our society. The whole 3/5 person argument. I only want to know why suburban towns do not reflect the overall population of CT?
Excellent article on race written by Karen Brodkin, PhD, UCLA Prof.
http://www.h-net.org/reviews/showpdf...12332929989042

[JViello]

Define "white".

I don't know of THAT many people from the Caucasus region in the USA. Those are the true Caucasians if you want to split hairs. In fact, I'd be willing to bet some Caucasians even have olive skin!

By saying your "Italian" I'm going to assume your descendents are from Sicily - as most "Italian Americans" are, and it IS different from the main land indeed and well...not really Italy from an Italian's point of view. It's Sicily. (Think along the lines of the United States making Puerto Rico the 51st state and you get the idea.)

I'm a first generation American and my family (Still) lives in the Northern regions of Italy and we are fair skinned people with lighter hair and lack of it on our bodies. (Not a hair on my chest) Does that make us "white"? Do all Italians have the unibrow, dark skin, body fur and black hair? What about my Italian cousin who has dirty blonde hair? You'd probably think he was German, but I can assure you he is Italian in every part of his mind and body. Part of his family lineage goes way way way back for thousands of years IN Italy. Would he be white?

Trying to make national ties to "race" can get pretty amusing at times...including now. Just ask any black Brit if he is "white".

[Srib]

paule - like i said the jury is still out and you can call yourself whatever you want to, but just because you don't identify yourself as white, you can't make the blanket statement that italians and portuguese are certianly NOT white - because as far as i'm concerned thats your opinion and many would disagree with you. I am 100% portuguese and I consider myself white. I am first generation and my family came to the US with nothing. I don't particularly think being white - or calling myself white as you say has afforded me any further opportunities than anyone else. I worked hard and used my brain as did my parents and my siblings. Many of my relatives have lighter hair and hazel or blue eyes - so now can i call myself white?? :-)

[paule]

Originally Posted by Srib

paule - like i said the jury is still out and you can call yourself whatever you want to, but just because you don't identify yourself as white, you can't make the blanket statement that italians and portuguese are certianly NOT white - because as far as i'm concerned thats your opinion and many would disagree with you. I am 100% portuguese and I consider myself white. I am first generation and my family came to the US with nothing. I don't particularly think being white - or calling myself white as you say has afforded me any further opportunities than anyone else. I worked hard and used my brain as did my parents and my siblings. Many of my relatives have lighter hair and hazel or blue eyes - so now can i call myself white?? :-)

I hope you don't think that it was meant as a negative. I am simply attempting to detail what is an American social construction in regards to how race develops. The "racial scientific experiment" (which was borrowed by the Nazi's), is a social construction and has been proven biologically irrevelent. I am not saying that you or anyone else can't regard themselves as white, but that as my family immigranted into this country from Southern Europe, they tended to begin the process of assimilation, and for the most part identified with being "White", even if it was implicit in their behavior, not explicit. Anytime we mention blacks, that means that it is "not white", so therefore in order to understand the difference in humans that means something. I was also simply responding to the dialogue on this post about the difference in CT between cities and suburbs and as always I sometimes "stand corrected", because I am never always right, that is the process of learning. I thank you for the dialogue. Peace.

[Movin2CT]

Ummm... just a quick question:

What does race have to do with where people have lived in CT, and which area was their favorite? This was a fun thread to read before it got somewhat off track.

As a sociology major, I could go on forever about whether issues are truly racial issues or socio-economic issues with a little bigotry and prejudice thrown in for good measure...

However, I believe that is not the aim of the OP.

Done with my rant, just moving to CT, I like anyplace in CT where my neighbors will still speak to me after finding out that we are a family of diehard Red Sox fans, lol.