[Stylo]

Originally Posted by ProudFairfielder

Again, that's a statistical area.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...C_Feb_2013.gif

on this *very* large map you can clearly see that none of CT is in the NYC Core area...

FFC is it's own BPT metro area...

There are smaller metro areas within larger metro area. The official NYC metro area name is literally “New York–Newark–Bridgeport, NY, NJ, CT, PA”

[kidyankee764]

Originally Posted by Stylo

There are smaller metro areas within larger metro area. The official NYC metro area name is literally “New York–Newark–Bridgeport, NY, NJ, CT, PA”

Yep.

[ProudFairfielder]

You're implying that CSAs in inside of Metro Areas. It's the other way around.

A combined statistical area (CSA) is composed of adjacent metropolitan (MSA) and micropolitan statistical areas (µSA) in the United States and Puerto Rico that can demonstrate economic or social linkage

- Straight from Wikipedia.

Metro areas are in CSAs, NOT the other way around.

In common usage, most people are thinking of the CSA when they think of the "metro area."

Anyway, I think this has deviated from the purpose of the thread (regions of CT).

Let's return to that.
What do you think of my line for Panhandle CT/ Lower FFC?

[CTartist]

Originally Posted by ProudFairfielder

Let's return to that.
What do you think of my line for Panhandle CT/ Lower FFC?

I am originally from the "panhandle" city of Stamford and I like the analogy.

[JayCT]

Originally Posted by Lalalally

It's definitely not accurate at all. For my town, it doesn't show a single person working in NYC, or even White Plains for that matter. I simply know that is not true -- so many people in NF commute daily to White Plains. I'd say if it's not the number one commuting location, White Plains is pretty close to the top.


Same for Danbury -- not a single person works in Manhattan according to CERC; not a single person works in White Plains either. For Ridgefield, only 212 work in Manhattan, and zero in White Plains???

I heard back from CERC and they say that all of their data is updated and based on data obtained from the US Census. Their 2018 profiles identify the top TOWNS that residents commute to so while say Danbury may have a number of residents have jobs in New York State, there are not enough going to one town to be listed in the top job locations. I questioned this but they stand by their data. Jay

[Lalalally]

Originally Posted by JayCT

I heard back from CERC and they say that all of their data is updated and based on data obtained from the US Census. Their 2018 profiles identify the top TOWNS that residents commute to so while say Danbury may have a number of residents have jobs in New York State, there are not enough going to one town to be listed in the top job locations. I questioned this but they stand by their data. Jay

That seems strange -- if you take a look at the link to the old CERC profiles (2001) that I posted above, you can see that a significant number commute to NY. (I think my town showed almost 1,500 commuters to NY; 2,200 commuters to Danbury, and the 200 range for commuters to places such as Norwalk, Ridgefield, etc.) Another thing that I find strange is that the last census (2010) was a short form, 10 question census that did not ask a single question about where you work, what your household income is, etc. -- If I recall correctly, all of the questions were pretty much race focused and and asked about the number of people who live in your house and what their race was. The last in-depth census was 2000, which would make sense why that info. was available to CERC in 2001. At this point though, it's 18 year old stale data, which may be why CERC's profiles do not seem accurate and appear to be incomplete for many towns.

[JayCT]

Originally Posted by Lalalally

That seems strange -- if you take a look at the link to the old CERC profiles (2001) that I posted above, you can see that a significant number commute to NY. (I think my town showed almost 1,500 commuters to NY; 2,200 commuters to Danbury, and the 200 range for commuters to places such as Norwalk, Ridgefield, etc.) Another thing that I find strange is that the last census (2010) was a short form, 10 question census that did not ask a single question about where you work, what your household income is, etc. -- If I recall correctly, all of the questions were pretty much race focused and and asked about the number of people who live in your house and what their race was. The last in-depth census was 2000, which would make sense why that info. was available to CERC in 2001. At this point though, it's 18 year old stale data, which may be why CERC's profiles do not seem accurate and appear to be incomplete for many towns.

I believe that the reference (New York) in their older reports were for New York STATE and not the city or an individual town or city. The US Census uses other sources of data, like tax returns and corporate records to compile updated information that was not on their last census. That was why they did not need to do an in-depth survey in 2010. I too find it suspicious that there are not higher numbers for say White Plains or Manhattan in some towns like Danbury, New Fairfield and Ridgefield but again, CERC stands by their numbers. Jay

[ProudFairfielder]

Originally Posted by CTartist

I am originally from the "panhandle" city of Stamford and I like the analogy.

Awesome.

[ProudFairfielder]

Okay, here is my first draft of the map.
https://i.imgur.com/5EL4IFl.png

I'm open to criticism, and the one part I'd like most help with is what to do with the Naugatuck Valley (Controversial I know).

Shelton is undoubtedly in South Central CT, but Waterbury definitely isn't. Am I forced to cut it in half for the mega-regions?

Let's all try to stay level headed...

[GeoffD]

Originally Posted by CTartist

I am originally from the "panhandle" city of Stamford and I like the analogy.

Does "panhandle" in that part of lower Fairfield County mean you carry a cardboard sign saying "Will work for caviar"?