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Old 12-15-2018, 04:44 PM
 
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This is beyond scandalous.
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Old 12-15-2018, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Connecticut
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It is. As bad as trading waterfront land in Hadaam for a pile of rock in East Hadaam. Jay
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Old 12-16-2018, 10:02 AM
 
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Not a bad return on an investment of $100,000.
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Old 12-17-2018, 11:30 PM
 
Location: Conn.
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thanks for posting this. I read one article back in maybe September about the state giving Orange a grant to buy the land; never saw anything else about it. Nice use of taxpayer money to enrich a campaign donor.
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Old 12-18-2018, 03:13 PM
 
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thanks for posting this. I read one article back in maybe September about the state giving Orange a grant to buy the land; never saw anything else about it. Nice use of taxpayer money to enrich a campaign donor.
Happens all the time, all over the country, in everything from state to local governments, unfortunately. And the donation amounts involved are usually miniscule compared to what the donors get in favors.
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Old 12-18-2018, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Coastal Connecticut
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Very shady. Sounds like it didn't go through?
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Old 12-18-2018, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Coastal Northeast
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Very shady. Sounds like it didn't go through?
Thatís what I was wondering too. I donít think it did, thankfully. But the attempt speaks volumes about how shady politicians are, still, in 2018.
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Old 12-19-2018, 04:24 PM
 
Location: W Hartford, CT
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Thatís what I was wondering too. I donít think it did, thankfully. But the attempt speaks volumes about how shady politicians are, still, in 2018.
Hey, they don't call us Corrupticut for nothing. An aptly titled nickname, if you ask me.
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Old 12-19-2018, 05:15 PM
 
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Hey, they don't call us Corrupticut for nothing. An aptly titled nickname, if you ask me.
I would bet my life savings that if this story was not leaked to the press and the public, then that donor would have gotten his $5 million payout and the public would have been shafted twice; once when the state government paid out the excess $4.5 million and twice when the more valuable public land was swapped with the less valuable land. I am surprised the press outed this story as they tend to favor one party over the other one which is inherently dangerous in regard to ongoing corruption. Also people complain about corporations and lobbyists being the root of corruption but the buck stops with the politicians. They can say no and more often than not refuse to say no.
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Old 12-19-2018, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Hartford County, CT
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To a retail place, this lot is worth 550k. To any one else, that is what this lot is worth.

To the state government, which wants to build a train station there, it is worth more. It costs more to have a land for a specific reason. The state does not want to throw a strip mall on here, they want to add a train station in the Town of Orange. Naturally, the price will go up from what is appraised, because of supply (tracts of land with track frontage) and demand (state wants to build a railroad station). This particular plot of land is split about 60/40 between the Milford stop and the West Haven stop.

Does it sound bad in a headline? Yeah. Is there more involved than enriching a Democratic donor? Absolutely. Land doesn't magically appear out of nowhere in a prime location to build a large mass-transit station.

I am sure if the Government appraised everyone's homes here at $50k and demanded you pay up in order to build a new transfer station or a new school people would be up in arms over it. "But this is my house! It is worth at least $450k! Besides, you need it to build the school here, I refuse to budge for any amount less than $600k."

That would be reasonable. This guy had the state right where he wanted them. I see nothing wrong with that. Sure, he paid what? 100k for it? He has a valuable commodity and has every right to ask whatever price he wants for it. Don't like this deal? You also cannot complain about a lack of a stop in Orange or overcrowding at the Milford or West Haven stations.

This is a manufactured scandal out of nowhere. Nothing to see here.
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