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Old 01-29-2019, 06:39 AM
 
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Yeah, Amity is different - the towns run their own elementary schools and the Amity district covers the MS/HS only. Each town has a BOE and then there is an Amity BOE with members from all three towns. Not really an ideal setup from an efficiency standpoint.
Look at the three towns that make up Amity, Orange, Bethany, and Woodbridge. All pretty different. Makes sense that at an elementary school level that there is some independence.

Having been in a huge school system in Mass prior to moving to a smaller one here in CT, there are pluses and minuses to both.

Gotta say, if I was a parent and my K-5 child had to take a 30 minute bus/car ride to and from school every day I would be pretty annoyed. Kids that age should not be commuting an hour a day, waste of time and more chances for getting in trouble.

Local schools work best for that age level. It builds community. Having 1st graders having their friends spread out among three towns does not accomplish that.

Savings from this would be minimal, and you would also end up with empty buildings just sitting there forever. School zones are school zones. Have fun changing zoning laws to put something else in its spot.
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Old 01-29-2019, 06:44 AM
 
Location: Coastal Northeast
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Look at the three towns that make up Amity, Orange, Bethany, and Woodbridge. All pretty different. Makes sense that at an elementary school level that there is some independence.

Having been in a huge school system in Mass prior to moving to a smaller one here in CT, there are pluses and minuses to both.

Gotta say, if I was a parent and my K-5 child had to take a 30 minute bus/car ride to and from school every day I would be pretty annoyed. Kids that age should not be commuting an hour a day, waste of time and more chances for getting in trouble.

Local schools work best for that age level. It builds community. Having 1st graders having their friends spread out among three towns does not accomplish that.

Savings from this would be minimal, and you would also end up with empty buildings just sitting there forever. School zones are school zones. Have fun changing zoning laws to put something else in its spot.
A “school zone” is a designated traffic way and is only such during certain hours of the day when law enforcement can issue different fines based on the zone. It’s no different than a work zone.

Land that schools were previously on are not solely designated to schools. The community can do whatever they’d like. A park, community center, etc.
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Old 01-29-2019, 06:57 AM
 
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First of all, let’s get this straight, overall Connecticut schools are not failing. They are always among the best performing in the country and actually should be held as a model for other states. Yes, we do have schools with issues, but all states do and those problems will not go away if we regionalize schools. Maybe statistically, some systems will look better but that does not mean the quality of education will actually improve.

Second the proposals for regionalizing smaller systems makes no sense. These are not the schools that are failing or the ones who are having financial issues. If they were I could understand doing this but to my knowledge none of the districts that would be affected by this are having problems. Both bills are being proposed by legislators from large cities, not the communities being impacted by the proposals. Make you wonder the true motives of the bills. Bigger is NOT better. Jay
These are great points. After the last budget go around, the best performing districts are receiving little if any state funding, especially relative to the poor performing urban districts. And I don't have a problem with that. But the idea that the state is also going to dictate the size and composition based on some arbitrary criteria that has nothing to do with school performance (and when they provide little to no funding) is asinine. And you're right that there are ulterior motives at play here.
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Old 01-29-2019, 07:02 AM
 
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Unfortunately, this is the kind of stuff that happens when you elect Democrats. It’s mind boggling.
Agreed. Bet there are a lot of voters in suburban CT who are regretting their 2018 votes right now.
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Old 01-29-2019, 07:54 AM
 
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Unfortunately, this is the kind of stuff that happens when you elect Democrats. It’s mind boggling.
Well, No. Because if the other guy had won he would probably be pushing some bill to privatize every school in CT. Because privatization is the answer to everything!
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Old 01-29-2019, 07:58 AM
 
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Well, No. Because if the other guy had won he would probably be pushing some bill to privatize every school in CT. Because privatization is the answer to everything!
You and I both know that wouldn’t have happened. Even so, “probably” is the key word - you’ll never know.. Here we are, now seeing CT be subject to one of the most reprehensible taxes known to man - food.
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Old 01-29-2019, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Westport, CT
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Shocking that Torrington is all for this. Absolutely shocking.
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Old 01-29-2019, 08:21 AM
 
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Think they should consolidate the administrative level of schools into a County wide level. The town with the highest population would be the location of the County school administrators.

Consolidate schools with 60 or less students with nearby towns. Ensure students from consolidated school attend school with their previous classmates.

Raise all teachers monthly pay up by a $1,000 or more.

Consolidate education professionals pensions into one large group.

Privatize benefits of educators.

Loan forgiveness for teachers.

Extra $1,000 a month for teachers teaching in Fairfield County.

Teachers should switch to being State Workers and paid by the State. With benefits and pensions covered by the town they work for.
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Old 01-29-2019, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Northeast states
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Think they should consolidate the administrative level of schools into a County wide level. Outside of towns with more than 50,000 people.

Consolidate schools with 60 or less students with nearby towns. Ensure students from consolidated school attend school with their previous classmates.

Raise all teachers monthly pay up by a $1,000 or more.

Consolidate education professionals pensions into one large group.

Privatize benefits of educators.

Loan forgiveness for teachers.

Extra $1,000 a month for teachers teaching in Fairfield County.

Teachers should switch to being State Workers and paid by the State. With benefits and pensions covered by the town they work for.
Got increase taxes for that
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Old 01-29-2019, 08:40 AM
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Location: On the Stones of Years
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First of all, let’s get this straight, overall Connecticut schools are not failing. They are always among the best performing in the country and actually should be held as a model for other states. Yes, we do have schools with issues, but all states do and those problems will not go away if we regionalize schools. Maybe statistically, some systems will look better but that does not mean the quality of education will actually improve.

Second the proposals for regionalizing smaller systems makes no sense. These are not the schools that are failing or the ones who are having financial issues. If they were I could understand doing this but to my knowledge none of the districts that would be affected by this are having problems. Both bills are being proposed by legislators from large cities, not the communities being impacted by the proposals. Make you wonder the true motives of the bills. Bigger is NOT better. Jay
Jay, why does it surprise you that Democrats would propose solutions to problems that don't even exist ?
Nearly everything lately that they touch is based on their quest for power and their perception of what ails CT, and on the grand scale, the entire country. Their victories in the mid term nationwide were heavily promoted and enabled by the media focusing on hate and the mistrust of the President , even though economically the country is showing dramatic improvements.

There is absolutely no reason to rip apart the Education set up as it stands with the existing Districts to hopefully save a few bucks. That is an important and long standing part of the fabric of the state.
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