[JayCT]

Yes, you might like Connecticut. It has the best of both worlds, city and country. It is a great place to raise a family with excellent schools (rarely do you have to pay to send your kids to a private school for a good education). Kidyankee did an excellent job describing things here. They did forget to mention that we are also not far from the mountains of Vermont and New Hampshire. And of course there is the history. This is one of the oldest parts of the country and there is so much to see and do if you like that.

I would suggest you consider the Hartford area. It is a great small city with a lot to do and great towns to raise your family in. Of course, employment would be key so it will depend on what you do and if you can find a job here. Anyway, I wish you well and let us know if you have any questions. Jay

[WILWRadio]

Originally Posted by sav858

So you don't like the OP giving a bad first impression by suggesting their might be anarchy in CT based on a description his boss gave him even though they are asking locals for their thoughts, indicating he doesn't really believe the exaggeration? Then you turn around and "suspect" there is anarchy in CA? That's fairly hypocritical there, not liking what the OP thought about CT but then applying those same thoughts to CA yourself.

What exactly is the "CA attitude" as well? And is it coming from natives or transplants who moved to CA then moved out ? Because there is difference to how CA natives are and those longtime transplants that think their CA natives. A lot of people move to CA, forget where they came from, then act like they are so cool b/c they live in CA. Most people in CA, especially natives, are not like that generally.

Unfortunately the people that relocate out of CA into other areas bring many of the same problems they left behind. Ask a native of the Denver area or Seattle, Portland or Salt Lake City and they can fill you in with even more details than I.

The CA attitude is one of pretension, self absorption and self indulgence. While growing up in Simsbury and then later as an adult, I noted the most arrogant and pretentious people that moved to town were from the Midwest. The Californians were not necessarily arrogant but they were really into their material possessions and the "keep up with the Joneses" mentality. Sadly, it seems as though the best Californians stay in their state whilst the rest of the country gets the other half.

And it is a documented fact that California's cities are falling apart due to gang problems and the social welfare state being over burdened by illegal immigrants that are nesting in the cities and rural areas.

[kidyankee764]

Originally Posted by WILWRadio

And it is a documented fact that California's cities are falling apart due to gang problems and the social welfare state being over burdened by illegal immigrants that are nesting in the cities and rural areas.

Very true about the illegals - but the same is beginning to happen in CT. Danbury is overrun by this, and the city has changed DRASTICALLY in the past 10 years. I remember going downtown as a child to visit my grandparents. All of the store names were in English, great restaurants, etc. Now it has the feel of a South American city, becoming rundown, and the restaurants and clubs are becoming more dangerous with fights, stabbings, etc. And, you guessed it, the illegals are the ones arrested for it - not the locals.

New Haven isn't far off.

[WILWRadio]

Originally Posted by kidyankee764

Very true about the illegals - but the same is beginning to happen in CT. Danbury is overrun by this, and the city has changed DRASTICALLY in the past 10 years. I remember going downtown as a child to visit my grandparents. All of the store names were in English, great restaurants, etc. Now it has the feel of a South American city, becoming rundown, and the restaurants and clubs are becoming more dangerous with fights, stabbings, etc. And, you guessed it, the illegals are the ones arrested for it - not the locals.

New Haven isn't far off.

Yeah, I've heard about the problems in Danbury and New Haven. Safe Havens? A legal precedent is being set here that would suggest it is perfectly OK to break a serious law and not to expect any repercussions to result. Anarchy WILL result if that attitude is allowed to continue.

[skytrekker]

Funny thing

I have seen many people from Connecticut leave this state and move to many areas of the nation-not only California- and take their problems to those places as well.

I have an x friend who was pretentious,an arrogant trust fund baby, greedy, self indulgent and offensive- and they live in central CT---- but the caveat is 'they where in 'love' with the California lifestyle for years-

[sav858]

Originally Posted by WILWRadio

Unfortunately the people that relocate out of CA into other areas bring many of the same problems they left behind. Ask a native of the Denver area or Seattle, Portland or Salt Lake City and they can fill you in with even more details than I.

The CA attitude is one of pretension, self absorption and self indulgence. While growing up in Simsbury and then later as an adult, I noted the most arrogant and pretentious people that moved to town were from the Midwest. The Californians were not necessarily arrogant but they were really into their material possessions and the "keep up with the Joneses" mentality. Sadly, it seems as though the best Californians stay in their state whilst the rest of the country gets the other half.

And it is a documented fact that California's cities are falling apart due to gang problems and the social welfare state being over burdened by illegal immigrants that are nesting in the cities and rural areas.

Those Californian's that are into their material possessions that left probably did so b/c of that. Many can't afford a bunch of unnecessary material possessions and a big house in CA so they go to cheaper places to get that big house, flat screen LCD, etc.... Many people here have to learn to live w/o that stuff b/c rent or mortgages cost enough as it is. Most people I know are not materialistic like that at all, most drive used, paid for cars, watch old tube TV's, don't have fancy electronics, etc..

And no it's not a "documented fact" that CA cities are falling apart. Where did you get that from? There is over 36 million people in the state with a vast range of different types of cities. Some are doing fine and some are falling apart. I just don't get why people continue to try to generalize the largest and most diverse state, especially in the Northeast. People exaggerate about CA's problems so much. Our cities are being "overrun with gangs"?!?! Or that "illegals" are terrorizing this state, illegals are a problem but it's not even a daily issue with most people and not nearly as bad as some of you exaggerate. Give me a break, that is so far from the truth for the majority of CA. Even a large city like San Diego is still the safest city in America over one million people and one of the safest overall despite all the PERCEIVED "anarchy" that people THINK is occurring at the border. Some of the Top 10 safest cities in America are in CA along with some of the most dangerous. We're so big and diverse I can't believe people out there are serious when they spew the same tired old stereotypes over and over. A place like CT is so much smaller and more uniform and homogeneous than a huge state like CA, you can't fairly compare the two at all.

[kidyankee764]

Originally Posted by skytrekker

Funny thing

I have seen many people from Connecticut leave this state and move to many areas of the nation-not only California- and take their problems to those places as well.

I have an x friend who was pretentious,an arrogant trust fund baby, greedy, self indulgent and offensive- and they live in central CT---- but the caveat is 'they where in 'love' with the California lifestyle for years-

I hope you're not implying that the only people who enjoy the CA lifestyle are greedy, self indulgent, offensive idiots... right?

A lot of my friends moved to San Diego or Orange County and, while they loved it, returned home as they began to settle down. They said living out there was best thing they ever did, because it made them appreciate CT so much more (in specific, they mention that food here is better, intelligence, weather - less fire, earthquake threat, and the people are more efficient.) That is all arguable though.

[kidyankee764]

Originally Posted by sav858

Those Californian's that are into their material possessions that left probably did so b/c of that. Many can't afford a bunch of unnecessary material possessions and a big house in CA so they go to cheaper places to get that big house, flat screen LCD, etc.... Many people here have to learn to live w/o that stuff b/c rent or mortgages cost enough as it is. Most people I know are not materialistic like that at all, most drive used, paid for cars, watch old tube TV's, don't have fancy electronics, etc..

And no it's not a "documented fact" that CA cities are falling apart. Where did you get that from? There is over 36 million people in the state with a vast range of different types of cities. Some are doing fine and some are falling apart. I just don't get why people continue to try to generalize the largest and most diverse state, especially in the Northeast. People exaggerate about CA's problems so much. Our cities are being "overrun with gangs"?!?! Or that "illegals" are terrorizing this state, illegals are a problem but it's not even a daily issue with most people and not nearly as bad as some of you exaggerate. Give me a break, that is so far from the truth for the majority of CA. Even a large city like San Diego is still the safest city in America over one million people and one of the safest overall despite all the PERCEIVED "anarchy" that people THINK is occurring at the border. Some of the Top 10 safest cities in America are in CA along with some of the most dangerous. We're so big and diverse I can't believe people out there are serious when they spew the same tired old stereotypes over and over. A place like CT is so much smaller and more uniform and homogeneous than a huge state like CA, you can't fairly compare the two at all.

Well said.

[skytrekker]

Originally Posted by kidyankee764

I hope you're not implying that the only people who enjoy the CA lifestyle are greedy, self indulgent, offensive idiots... right?

A lot of my friends moved to San Diego or Orange County and, while they loved it, returned home as they began to settle down. They said living out there was best thing they ever did, because it made them appreciate CT so much more (in specific, they mention that food here is better, intelligence, weather - less fire, earthquake threat, and the people are more efficient.) That is all arguable though.

No- I am not- my premise was is that 'those kind of people' are everywhere- but the California lifestyle of the last 20 years has made the state a playground of the wealthy and successful-especially along the coast- where ordinary people where priced out to the IE or central valley or out of state.

40 years ago California was almost a perfect place to live- as the Eagles song 'The Last Resort' 'You call someplace Paradise-kiss it goodbye......'

There are old generation Californians that are most pleasant- the nouveau riche there as here can be very obnoxious.

[kidyankee764]

Originally Posted by skytrekker

No- I am not- my premise was is that 'those kind of people' are everywhere- but the California lifestyle of the last 20 years has made the state a playground of the wealthy and successful-especially along the coast- where ordinary people where priced out to the IE or central valley or out of state.

40 years ago California was almost a perfect place to live- as the Eagles song 'The Last Resort' 'You call someplace Paradise-kiss it goodbye......'

There are old generation Californians that are most pleasant- the nouveau riche therea s here can be very obnoxious.

Well said, I agree. With that, I think it's safe to say the nouveau riche is obnoxious everywhere, especially in CT's blossoming upper-middle class towns.