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01-11-2009, 10:45 AM
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you guys don't use random school information to try to prove that some cities are just dumber than others, do u?
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01-11-2009, 11:06 AM
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you guys don't use random school information to try to prove that some cities are just dumber than others, do u?
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No. Opinions generally are formed based upon the things that we see, such as the post below, presented by a graduate of a city high school.
RU gettin wut im sayin bout da impressions/perceptions cuz of posts like dis?
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what part of hampton roads are u from?
by the way, I have NEVER heard of any gang problems in waterbury. hartfords murder rate is AT LEAST four times ours, so u cannot even compare crime in both of the cities. (I can't believe someone even tried)
AND why are people looking for at statistics for connecticut high schools and he's already a senior? Those statistics are based off of the Connecticut Mastery Test, a test that just proves that inner city schools do worse than suburban schools. Those tests are given up to 8th grade, so basically they have diddily to do wit ur son. If ur son is already a senior, then hes already taken SAT's and probably applied to college so I don't think u should even bother looking for wut school is better because they're gonna look at his old school's records anyways.
As far as trains, the only cities that u talked about that doesn't have train access is newington, hartford and bristol. the path train connects ny to nj, and metro north connects ct to ny.
waterbury, naugatuck, and bristol may be ur best bet if ur a single mother raising a son. I wanna say more about bridgeport, but i honestly cant I'm not that familiar with the city (but even bridgeport has to have a nice something somewhere) stamford and danbury may be too expensive but u might want to check into norwalk. I don't know how much apartments rent for down there.
also, don't be afraid. I used to visit my aunt in suffolk every easter and summer up until she died in 04, so I'm kinda familiar with the hampton roads area. Hartford and Bridgeport are like norfolk but smaller and waterbury is very much like portsmouth but without the navy lol.
hey if u have any more questions post them. Good luck to ur son cuz I kno its gonna be tough leavin his friends senior year before prom
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01-11-2009, 11:48 AM
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AND why are people looking for at statistics for connecticut high schools and he's already a senior? Those statistics are based off of the Connecticut Mastery Test, a test that just proves that inner city schools do worse than suburban schools. Those tests are given up to 8th grade, so basically they have diddily to do wit ur son. If ur son is already a senior, then hes already taken SAT's and probably applied to college so I don't think u should even bother looking for wut school is better because they're gonna look at his old school's records anyways.
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Ranking statistics are also based on the CAPT scores given in 10th grade, student/teacher ratios, etc. It's unlikely that seniors are getting a dramatically different education than sophomores.
Out of 190 state school districts, Waterbury ranks 186.
Connecticut State Cities - CT City School Rankings
Unfortunately, schools in the larger cities do not compare as favorably to those in the suburbs. There is also a lower graduation rate. When parents are looking for a school to send their students to, it is best to have as much factual information available to them as possible so they can make the decision that best suits their needs. School rankings are just one tool available to parents in their research. They can choose to ignore them or not.
And in addition to SAT scores, students applying to college often need to write an essay---one would hope they had learned the proper grammar in order to do so effectively.
That final year of high school is still very important.
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01-11-2009, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Stratford, Ct. Resident
No. Opinions generally are formed based upon the things that we see, such as the post below, presented by a graduate of a city high school.
RU gettin wut im sayin bout da impressions/perceptions cuz of posts like dis?
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or maybe i'm jus 20 and grew up in the AIM culture. So if I sat here and used big words, do u think that I would be an exception to ur, "waterbury is a cluster of ignorant fools"? or would u say that "if he types like that waterbury must have TONS of Ph.D's".
Talk about being narrowminded. So do u think that only kids who graduate from suburban high schools use capital letters when they begin sentences? I talk how I talk cuz I have nothing to prove to u. u talk junk about city schools but guess what, I got into uconn the same year they added the writing portion to the SAT's. theres a time and a place for everything. btw, wut college did u go to?
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01-11-2009, 12:36 PM
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Ranking statistics are also based on the CAPT scores given in 10th grade, student/teacher ratios, etc. It's unlikely that seniors are getting a dramatically different education than sophomores.
Out of 190 state school districts, Waterbury ranks 186.
Connecticut State Cities - CT City School Rankings
Unfortunately, schools in the larger cities do not compare as favorably to those in the suburbs. There is also a lower graduation rate. When parents are looking for a school to send their students to, it is best to have as much factual information available to them as possible so they can make the decision that best suits their needs. School rankings are just one tool available to parents in their research. They can choose to ignore them or not.
And in addition to SAT scores, students applying to college often need to write an essay---one would hope they had learned the proper grammar in order to do so effectively.
That final year of high school is still very important.
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I see wut u mean. But my point was the CMTs are skewd. they imply that, because kids in the inner city do poorly on them, they don't go to college, which is not true. Only in 2006, did they make the CAPT test a graduation requirement. In the years before, no one cared about taking them.
The schools post a scale saying how many students get into four year universities. And when u say "parents can ignore them", u have to understand that this is a very critical bored. some peoples tones sound like "ur world will end if u enroll ur child in ... schools" Or "oh no, only bums live there." when ppl make comments that imply this, they dont realize that some ppl don't have a choice but to move to larger cities because its cheaper.
most of the time, my objective is to just tell these people "hey, its not that bad. I grew up here, i go to college, and I'm not afraid for my life to come back on the holidays"
Just to let u kno, I took my last SAT's in March of 2005. November 30th, I applied to UCONN, and I got in during the last week of february 06. After u get in to a school u wanna go to, its smooth sailing. Here it is January and if he's confident about where he wants to go, he's got nothing to worry about.
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01-11-2009, 12:55 PM
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I see wut u mean. But my point was the CMTs are skewd. they imply that, because kids in the inner city do poorly on them, they don't go to college, which is not true. Only in 2006, did they make the CAPT test a graduation requirement. In the years before, no one cared about taking them.
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Exactly. Even the teachers at a so called "excellent school district" told students they were meaningless, and not to bother coming in to retake them if you didn't pass.
The CAPT score is the state's poor way of ranking schools.
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01-11-2009, 01:42 PM
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or maybe i'm jus 20 and grew up in the AIM culture. So if I sat here and used big words, do u think that I would be an exception to ur, "waterbury is a cluster of ignorant fools"?
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I never even mentioned Waterbury directly, let alone describe the residents/students as being ignorant fools. Also, note that your screenname was omitted from the quotations. Do you think that was an accident?
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I talk how I talk cuz I have nothing to prove to u.
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I didn't ask for you to prove it to me, but your "style" of posting would lead many people to believe that the refrain from universities regarding city students not being adequately prepared for college, is true.
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u talk junk about city schools but guess what, I got into uconn the same year they added the writing portion to the SAT's. theres a time and a place for everything. btw, wut college did u go to?
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I'm not talking "junk" about city schools. I'm pointing out what is obvious to anyone who has lived in this state their whole lives. There are 2 Connecticut's: the cities and the suburbs. I've never told anyone to stay away from city schools, as a matter of fact, i've mentioned a few schools in various cities that are viewed favorably by residents. I understand that it isn't economically feasible for everyone to live in the suburbs, and i feel that i am very conscious of this when i post. I'm sorry that you feel differently.
Apologies to the OP for the threadjack. Good luck with your decision and please continue to ask questions.
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01-11-2009, 02:59 PM
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Personally, I don't like this list. It shows that Unionville schools are ranked #9 but Farmington schools are ranked #29?! Aren't they the same since Unionville is a section of the Town of Farmington?
Colebrook, which is part of RSD #7, is rated #1. But Barkhamsted, New Hartford and Norfolk, the other towns in RSD #7, are #67, N/A, and #73, respectively.
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01-11-2009, 03:39 PM
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Personally, I don't like this list. It shows that Unionville schools are ranked #9 but Farmington schools are ranked #29?! Aren't they the same since Unionville is a section of the Town of Farmington?
Colebrook, which is part of RSD #7, is rated #1. But Barkhamsted, New Hartford and Norfolk, the other towns in RSD #7, are #67, N/A, and #73, respectively.
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The schools in Unionville are different than the schools in Farmington. Maybe you are wanting to compare districts instead of towns/schools? As a district Farmington ranks 16. That link does give you the option of comparing towns, districts, and schools, you have several choices. I actually prefer it because you can research individual schools and towns, compare schools/towns/districts to other schools/towns/districts, and the site is easy to navigate. But of course if someone isn't interested in test scores they can totally ignore the links.
Here they explain how the ratings are obtained:
Ranking FAQ
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01-11-2009, 03:55 PM
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Desperately Seeking Advice
Thanks everyone for the info, you all rock.  I live in Virginia Beach, would like the Ct version of that. My budget is like 1200 -1400 rent 2 bedrooms. Yeah its going to be tough for myson, but i am trying to prepare him for the move. If i could find employment in Hartford then i will definitely look there first.
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