One Giant Step Backwards (Stratford: to buy, middle school, health)
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Unless you wish to disagree with the American Psychiatric Association.
Just sayin...
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You were a child. There's a difference between a child having cancer and an adult having cancer, when it comes to comfort and ability to eat, etc. MJ helps people with this stuff - it wouldn't help a child obviously. Moot.
What's the difference? Does it hurt less? Is the fear less? Are the treatments less painful?
I think not. If anything an adult is more prepared to deal with such things.
Why didn't they offer me weed?
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Again, take a class.
I did. 14 months of it through the State of CT.
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I wish we didn't.
That's not nice.
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Where did you go to school?
UCF (4 years) double major, and instead of pursuing a Masters I took 2.5 years and completed a bachelor of arts with the International Bible College for personal reasons.
You?
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Really? Where?
So you are a "conservative" for universal healthcare too?
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Please name the serious health risks posed by use of marijuana.
I already did. Aren't you reading these posts?
Let me post the statement again:
There are over 400 chemicals found in marijuana smoke and 60 of them have been proven to cause cancer. Marijuana contains the neurotoxin THC, which is a poison that affects the brain and nerves.
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Thankfully, I don't have your respect. I don't want it.
Classy.
Edit: I see you edited your original post, and I don't feel like correcting this one. So it is what it is.
No, to answer your decriminalization question. Simply because of the physical addictiveness, and the major health threats posed by other drugs. You CANNOT overdose on marijuana, nor has there been a single death due to marijuana other than driving under the influence. Not one.
I don't think anyone here has the idea "people should do what they want" because every choice affects everyone around you. But if you're in the privacy of your own home, sick with cancer, AIDS or just have a stomach virus, and want to smoke marijuana to feel better, more power to you. If you drive and get caught with it, you should get a DUI.
Perhaps it's our society. In Australia (where my extended family lives) young kids drink alcohol all the time and don't have the issues we have here. I think a lot of the issues we have here are due to the whole "zero tolerance" policy. I'm not saying I disagree with zero tolerance, but there are some things that we, as a society, must be careful with. Ever do something just because your parents specifically told you not to do it?
Read what I said about Marinol on the first few pages
Unless you wish to disagree with the American Psychiatric Association.
Just sayin...
Again, the quote is from the DEA. Do you have any scholarly articles?
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What's the difference? Does it hurt less? Is the fear less? Are the treatments less painful?
I think not. If anything an adult is more prepared to deal with such things.
Why didn't they offer me weed?
From a moral POV - you'd be OK with letting a child smoke marijuana if it were allowed for adults? Morally, that's absurd.
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That's not nice.
Many things you post are much, much, MUCH more insulting, buddy.
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UCF (4 years) double major, and instead of pursuing a Masters I took 2.5 years and completed a bachelor of arts with the International Bible College for personal reasons.
You?
I edited my post to put my educational background in. Currently going to school for IT now, courtesy of my company.
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So you are a "conservative" for universal healthcare too?
No sir. I'm a moderate. Well, maybe to you I'd be a liberal.
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There are over 400 chemicals found in marijuana smoke and 60 of them have been proven to cause cancer. Marijuana contains the neurotoxin THC, which is a poison that affects the brain and nerves.
So then maybe we should rid the nation of alcohol? What about the other medications I listed above, since they, too, affect the brain and nerves.
How is that being callow? You asked a loaded question, did you not? Fact.
Relevant, not loaded.
But you never answered. Do you?
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Again, the quote is from the DEA. Do you have any scholarly articles?
Facts are facts, and those are backed up by the American Psychiatric Association.
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From a moral POV - you'd be OK with letting a child smoke marijuana if it were allowed for adults? Morally, that's absurd.
Why? Why is it okay for adults but not children? We give children narcotics - the one's you use as an example to legalize pot.
This is what happens when you live your life by moral relativism, you're all over the map.
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Many things you post are much, much, MUCH more insulting, buddy.
Hey, look you're pointing to bad behavior (Supposed) to excuse bad behavior! The same thing you are doing to justify marajuana. Shocking!
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No sir. I'm a moderate. Well, maybe to you I'd be a liberal.
What is a moderate? Do we have a "moderate party?" Just curious.
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So then maybe we should rid the nation of alcohol? What about the other medications I listed above, since they, too, affect the brain and nerves.
I'm pretty sure it's illegal to use a prescription drug outside of it's intended purpose.
Maybe we should outlaw spray paint and cough medicine then too? Oh wait, I think as a nation we are putting laws in place to prevent abuse of such things, but at the same time we are legalizing a known drug. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight, that makes sense.
Why? Why is it okay for adults but not children? We give children narcotics - the one's you use as an example to legalize pot.
Wow. It's called brain development. Hmm.. I guess you never studied Psychology, or are even familiar with it?
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Hey, look you're pointing to bad behavior (Supposed) to excuse bad behavior! The same thing you are doing to justify marajuana.
So you admit you're not very nice, then?
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What is a moderate? Do we have a "moderate party?" Just curious.
Does everyone have to be a Republican or Democrat? Is that what is required for this nation? Maybe in the nation called "JViello", but not in America.
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I'm pretty sure it's illegal to use a prescription drug outside of it's intended purpose.
Maybe we should outlaw spray paint and cough medicine then too? Oh wait, I think as a nation we are putting laws in place to prevent abuse of such things, but at the same time we are legalizing a known drug.
We might as well outlaw them if marijuana is, since they all have similar tendencies to be abused, right?
Do you guys understand the penalties for having less than an ounce of weed? Here's what happens:
-You get pulled out of the car, patted down, searched for more, get taken in cuffs to the police station. Then, usually u get released and have to go to court. At court, they usually have you go to community service or pay a fine. The net result actually benefits the taxpayer, because u usually don't have a public defender when u see the judge.
Where exactly are those "taxdollars" that u guys are talking about going? Because no matter what, ur car will still get searched, and the same process will happen except for going to see a judge and pay a fine or do community service.
One step backwards actually implies we're going backwards from where we came from. Some of u guys believe that it would be bad for moral to leave Iraq. Some of you believe that we lost too many soldiers to just up and leave and say F*** the war. The same principle applies here. Although I am against the war, the idea of abandoning all of the cops that died fighting in the war on drugs leaves me clueless.
Kid, in the State of Connecticut, people with cancer-like diseases who need a marijuana-like drug are prescribed Marinol, a Schedule III narcotic that has basically the same properties as Marijuana. And not to personally attack you, but I dont understand ur logic. So, if a lot of the kids in the suburbs did heroin and cocaine in the 80s, do you think it would have been legal?
I feel that with this law, because so many kids in different socio economic classes do it, or they tried it and have been arrested for it, it should now be ok to do. But with that same logic, they should legalize and tax all drugs, right? "Its there business"
No. We should trust our government to have a positive influence on family and lifestyle, and this bill doesn't suit either of those. We are cash-strapped, so taxpayers are trying to find bills that they could do away with, even if they contradict morality. What ramifications would this have on teenagers? Well I know one thing, all the kids that sold nics and dimes before school will be selling them all day now, right in front of the cops, because its legal. Or will they? "Officer, I wasn't selling it. I was just holding it because it to show everybody because its legal"
Yeahhhh..
I don't care about the war on drugs. Legalize all of it and let everyone have their fill until it kills them.
We might as well outlaw them if marijuana is, since they all have similar tendencies to be abused, right?
I really don't feel like replying to the bickering, but would like to make this simple point.
Cough medicine sole purpose is not for drug use and getting high.
Nor are other over the counter and prescription drugs.
Aside from some hippie promoting the wearing of a hemp garment as the way to save the world, the only purpose for legalizing weed is for people to get high.
There is a difference. I'm not sure why folks choose not to see it.
Don't we have enough crap to deal with outside of having to "prevent" our citizens to "just say no" to another legal substance who's sole purpose is to alter your mind state?
Don't the same people portraying alcohol as being bad understand once the genie is out of the bottle, you have the same problem as you do with alcohol trying to put it back in the bottle?
Aside from some hippie promoting the wearing of a hemp garment as the way to save the world, the only purpose for legalizing weed is for people to get high. There is a difference. I'm not sure why folks choose not to see it.
But, if big pharma produces it instead then that is o.k.? Prozac, valium, rispordol, etc. are all mind altering drugs that are prescribed for the purpose of altering one's consciousness. How is this more acceptable? Because their snazzy commercials say so?
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