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Unread 04-02-2009, 09:57 AM
 
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The constitutional amendment was defeated by a vote of: 847,518-579,904
That's about 60/40. The "church" was pretty vocal about getting people to vote for this amendment, and it failed. In retaliation for their outspokenness, 2 gay CT legislators attempted to introduce legislation to create an oversight board to review the church's finances. It should be interesting to see what initiatives are aimed at the Catholic churches down the road.

http://www.sots.ct.gov/sots/lib/sots...the_ballot.pdf

 
Unread 04-02-2009, 10:25 AM
 
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I never saw one commercial on tv saying to vote yes.
Though i DID vote yes becuase i knew what the ballot was about.
I think if people DONT do there research they are more inclined to vote no, if they don't know what it's asking for. That's why i think the majority was so large.
they should only allow people to vote who can clearly understand what it IS they are voting for.
 
Unread 04-02-2009, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Cheshire, Conn.
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I never saw one commercial on TV saying to vote yes.

Though I DID vote yes because I knew what the ballot was about.
I think if people DON'T do their research, they are more inclined to vote no if they don't know what it's asking for. That's why I think the majority was so large.

They should only allow people to vote who can clearly understand what it IS they are voting for.
There were two separate ads which ran every single day on Channel 3 during the newscasts. I remember in one, a woman was standing outside the Capitol and the wind kept blowing her hair into her mouth. She was obnoxious in her appeal.

As for your theory, if true, those folks in Waterbury and Bridgeport were busy doing their research since the majority voted "yes" in those cities. The opposite is true in Hartford and New Haven where the majority voted "no."
 
Unread 04-02-2009, 10:45 AM
 
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I know plenty of my sisters friends (they are 21 year olds) were voting for obama and No because there friends were doing it... (sigh)
 
Unread 04-02-2009, 11:15 AM
 
Location: CT
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I never saw one commercial on tv saying to vote yes.
I saw them on every channel I watched. They were hard to miss if you watch daytime or evening TV.

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I know plenty of my sisters friends (they are 21 year olds) were voting for obama and No because there friends were doing it... (sigh)
Lets not turn this into a "bash Obama" thread. We all know you don't like him, or the idea of gay marriage (one has nothing to do with the other, so I'm not sure why Obama was brought up).
 
Unread 04-02-2009, 11:42 AM
 
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Originally Posted by KH02 View Post
I never saw one commercial on tv saying to vote yes.
Though i DID vote yes becuase i knew what the ballot was about.
I think if people DONT do there research they are more inclined to vote no, if they don't know what it's asking for. That's why i think the majority was so large.
they should only allow people to vote who can clearly understand what it IS they are voting for.
I liked the theory behind the initiative, but after researching it more carefully, i concluded that it would just open up a big can of worms. Lobbyists have the power, we don't. And this convention would've opened the door to too many special interest lobbyists, IMHO. I do feel that i understood what i was voting for, and had researched it sufficiently to make my NO vote.
 
Unread 04-02-2009, 11:49 AM
 
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Fair enough. All good reasons, yes you have to find your "fit" for sure. As you said, "nothing personal". I agree.



Well, with all due respect, if you don't want it to be a "gay issue" don't make it one.

Your post started off with "lesbian couple" in the main subject and you asked about "gay friendly", "gay couple" and "open minded" about every other sentence. (See you OP below for reference)

So IMO you made it a bigger issue than many of us see it as. Understand?
I did title my topic that. Because I wanted people to know what the post was about. I do believe that is the purpose of having a title. Is it not?. . . With all due respect.

And I did reference "gay friendly", because again, that was something I was wondering about. I did not however say gay couple or open minded often, much less every other sentence. But if you really read my OP, i did specifically say no debate please, only advice regarding my situation. I said that because I have noticed that previous posts made in the CT forum regarding "relocation advice for a gay couple" has turned awry and into a debate thread. ( I also noticed you seemed to be a part of those debates, sometimes being the initiator). And while I can debate with the best of em, I just don't want to. Im not particularly into online message board debating. I honestly just wanted good and honest advice on the question I was asking. Nothing more, nothing less. And who better to ask than the people who live thier lives there and know first hand right? Once again, with all due respect.

Im sorry your unhappy with the laws your state has enacted. However, due to those laws, be prepared to deal with these questions more often. Your state is one of the two in the entire country that have given gay people marriage rights and because of that, more and more are gonna relocate there. Aside from the laws, who wouldn't wanna live there? It has some of the most beautiful landscape I've seen while researching different places to relocate. And for that, you are lucky. (the south in my opinion is dowright ugly, aside from the beaches). But back to the issue, Im sorry you disagree. But just because people advertise thier post "gay friendly", doesn't mean they want to debate issues of morality. This site is called city-data, and it aimed to assist people wanting some sort of information regarding "cities" and locality, most often utilized by people looking for some sort of insight on relocating from locals. Im sure there is a site for you to debate morality, if thats what your into.

When moving, you have to make "gay-friendly" an issue, if your gay that is. No one wants to live somewhere where they don't feel welcome or have to worry about their safety. I don't expect you to understand that, but it is a reality. Coming from somewhere that isn't very tolerant and you have to worry about safety, of course I would wanna know whether or not the next place I live is going to be the same. Like I stated, Im not trying to live in a "castro" type neighborhood, or somewhere that everyday life looks like a gay pride parade. Just a nice, safe place where I would'nt be a foreigner or have to worry about my safety. And maybe meet a few friends. Maybe to those in CT it isn't even a big deal, which is great! But i guess thats part of what I was asking.

You seem like a nice person otherwise, and thank you for the part of your message that answered my intended question! Take care!

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Unread 04-02-2009, 11:57 AM
 
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And once again, thanks to everyone who has helped!
 
Unread 04-02-2009, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Western Mass
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I think you may be taking some of the posts here out of context. The Connecticut folks here have always been extremely respectable on these boards. You have to understand that sometimes the posts on any of the boards will shift a different way. People tend to post their opinions, and anything disrespectful here is usually deleted fairly quickly.

You're right about the point you made about how hard it is for you as a gay couple and issues with not feeling welcome or safe. You may be better off discussing this topic with other gay couples that live in Connecticut.
 
Unread 04-02-2009, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Montreal -> CT -> MA -> Montreal
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I did title my topic that. Because I wanted people to know what the post was about. I do believe that is the purpose of having a title. Is it not?. . . With all due respect.

And I did reference "gay friendly", because again, that was something I was wondering about. I did not however say gay couple or open minded often, much less every other sentence. But if you really read my OP, i did specifically say no debate please, only advice regarding my situation. I said that because I have noticed that previous posts made in the CT forum regarding "relocation advice for a gay couple" has turned awry and into a debate thread. ( I also noticed you seemed to be a part of those debates, sometimes being the initiator). And while I can debate with the best of em, I just don't want to. Im not particularly into online message board debating. I honestly just wanted good and honest advice on the question I was asking. Nothing more, nothing less. And who better to ask than the people who live thier lives there and know first hand right? Once again, with all due respect.

Im sorry your unhappy with the laws your state has enacted. However, due to those laws, be prepared to deal with these questions more often. Your state is one of the two in the entire country that have given gay people marriage rights and because of that, more and more are gonna relocate there. Aside from the laws, who wouldn't wanna live there? It has some of the most beautiful landscape I've seen while researching different places to relocate. And for that, you are lucky. (the south in my opinion is dowright ugly, aside from the beaches). But back to the issue, Im sorry you disagree. But just because people advertise thier post "gay friendly", doesn't mean they want to debate issues of morality. This site is called city-data, and it aimed to assist people wanting some sort of information regarding "cities" and locality, most often utilized by people looking for some sort of insight on relocating from locals. Im sure there is a site for you to debate morality, if thats what your into.

When moving, you have to make "gay-friendly" an issue, if your gay that is. No one wants to live somewhere where they don't feel welcome or have to worry about their safety. I don't expect you to understand that, but it is a reality. Coming from somewhere that isn't very tolerant and you have to worry about safety, of course I would wanna know whether or not the next place I live is going to be the same. Like I stated, Im not trying to live in a "castro" type neighborhood, or somewhere that everyday life looks like a gay pride parade. Just a nice, safe place where I would'nt be a foreigner or have to worry about my safety. And maybe meet a few friends. Maybe to those in CT it isn't even a big deal, which is great! But i guess thats part of what I was asking.

You seem like a nice person otherwise, and thank you for the part of your message that answered my intended question! Take care!
Hi.

I'm sorry that this has become a source of debate and conflict for you, I really am.

I'm a married heterosexual female, who moved to CT in 2005. It's really difficult to make real friends as an adult, yet I made two really close friends here, both in West Hartford. One is a gay male who, with his partner, have two babies. Another is a gay female who, when she was with her partner, adopted two children.

I know that West Hartford is not convenient for your studies, but I just wanted you to know that there ARE places here that are open-minded and gay friendly. Good luck in your search. I think it may be easier than you might think. I wish you well; only the best.
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