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Old 06-10-2007, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Rural CT.
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I'd learn how to make a decision for myself and not base my decisions on what other people think. Also I would not come on here (whether or not it was your intent does not matter) and start YET ANOTHER NC vs CT thread that turns into 15 pages of bickering like every other thread. You've experienced both places. They are your kids. They are your pros and cons. Like you said your neighbor loves it there, which just proves everybody will have different opinions and all that matters for YOUR move is what YOU think. Unless you feel like you are very uninformed or missing some pros/cons on the two states, there really is nothing someone should be able to tell you that will make your decision for you. Sorry I'm an A-hole, but I cant take another one of these threads starting up. I dont personally think theres a "right or wrong" solution. The only right or wrong is created by false regret in your own mind. Dont let it overcome you, just enjoy whichever decision you make and dont think about "did I make the wrong decision."
The beauty of message boards like this is that you can post where you want and read what you want. If you dont like the 15 pages of bickering...DONT ADD TO IT!

Freedom of speech and purpose of message boards...start threads, and contribute to threads on any subject you want. The poster WILL decide for themselves, just gathering more info and possibly more insight not previously realized.

Kudos to the original post. And of course, kudos to you for posting your opinion. Here's to another 15 pages.

 
Old 06-10-2007, 11:57 AM
 
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I've been in the same shoes as you and I moved back because it never felt like HOME to me. If you're longing to be back home in CT, then come back.
 
Old 06-10-2007, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Connecticut
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Hi all.

I haven't really taken the time to read the whole forum, but based on the title of the thread, I'll make a few comments.

I don't even think one can begin to compare North Carolina to Connecticut. Connecticut is among the most cultured states in the nation, has excellent food (much less of that fast food crud that litters the streets in NC), a very well-educated population with some of the best public schools in the nation.

Granted many new homes here are cookie cutter, the lots that they're on are vastly different from each other giving each new home it's own character. NC has rows and rows of homes that look exactly alike on the same amount of property (about .25 acres each) and they're really shoddily built.

The weather? Well, while the warm weather is nice, CT has four seasons. Once you're getting tired of one, the next one is beginning. Snow for Christmas is how it should be. Foliage is amazing and beautiful. And we all know about the Spring rain. It's actually nice, IMO.

You have the shoreline, an hour north the artsy Litchfield Hills with mountains, the world's largest casinos and the quiet corner if you want to get away from it all. You have the Naugatuck Valley in Northern Fairfield County which was the foundation in the 1960's for immigrants from Italy, Poland, and Ireland (no wonder some of the best pizza places are there!). Just 15 minutes south you have the Gold Coast housing some of the richest people in the world, and the Hartford area with many insurance executives.

In NC, you have Charlotte and a few other cities, but once you reach the outer suburbs, you have absolutely nothing. No New York, no Boston, no Newport, no Jersey Shore. The sheltered life in NC definitely reflects on the states general conservative (non-progressive) attitude.

IMO, I will never live anywhere else. CT is great.
 
Old 06-10-2007, 05:46 PM
 
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My wife and I moved our entire family to Leland, NC two years ago. Leland is along the coast between Wilmington and Southport. We are having a VERY difficult time deciding on going back or staying in NC.

Both states have pros and cons.

CT (Cons) - high taxes, long winters and honestly we worked to pay our mortgage.

CT (Pros) - Our family lives in CT, higher paying jobs, people are better educated, and the quality of life is higher: parks, topography, musuems, fine dining, hay rides etc. etc. Basically, all the things that make New England, New England.

NC (Cons) - a lot of crime, lower standard of living, education, humid summers, alligators, snakes, bugs, rednecks (comparable to Stafford Speedway on race night) and tons of illegal immigrants. I'm not a person that ever distinguished between black and white, asian or hispanic until I moved here and honestly I feel like a minority. Plus, being a very conservative Yankee from the North doesn't seem to endear you to the locals.

NC (Pros) - Weather, beaches, low taxes and life is more affordable - giving us more time to spend with the kids.

THESE ARE MY OBSERVATIONS and not meant to anger anyone. I've lived in CT for 9 years and lived in NC for 2 years and am simply giving my impression of the differences between the two states. I have people living next door that love it here so I may simply be a malcontent.

I just want to do what is right for my kids and I'm not sure spending more time with them outweights the advantages that I feel CT has to offer. Down here we don't know a soul so we don't have to worry about impressions or what the kids are wearing. In CT it always seemed to matter how much you made, where you lived etc.

I own my own business and my wife works for PPD (largest company in the area) so income doesn't really factor into this decision for us. Also, the schools may be better in CT but our kids are all Honor Roll students and doing extremely well (that is because I have the time to spend on their education).

Ok, based on what I've written or based on your own experiences vote.

Would you go back to CT or stay in NC.

Thanks - any and all input is welcomed.
South Charlotte/Fort Mill sc is the best.
 
Old 06-11-2007, 05:25 AM
 
Location: NC USA
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Wow, Dave Mags, you are right! You certainly have shed some light and changed my opinion.
 
Old 06-11-2007, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Tempe, AZ
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Cool North Carolina is more progressive than Connecticut

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The sheltered life in NC definitely reflects on the state's general conservative (non-progressive) attitude.
I am conservative yet I consider myself to be very progressive. Why does it appear to me that many liberal people are so arrogant that they think that places that don't fit their liberal ideas are not progressive?

What evidence do you have to show that Connecticut has more culture than North Carolina. The NHL hockey team Hartford Whalers, for example, moved from Connecticut to North Carolina and became the Carolina Hurricanes. The team couldn't make it in Connecticut and moved to North Carolina, where it became very successful and won the Stanley Cup in 2006. Sports are part of a region's culture, so it would appear to me that NC has a cultural advantage over CT.

The NASCAR Hall of Fame is also coming to Charlotte soon. NASCAR, while it has southern roots, is now very popular among people from all parts of the USA from all socioeconomic levels.

If North Carolina is not progressive, then why is it growing at a far faster rate than Connecticut? Most people would rather live in an area that is progressive rather than not progressive. Connecticut is growing very slowly in population so it doesn't appear to be very progressive to me. In my visits to Connecticut, it appears to me that the quality of life in Connecticut lags behind the state where I currently live, Arizona.
 
Old 06-11-2007, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Cheshire, Conn.
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I am conservative yet I consider myself to be very progressive.
I believe that there are two separate issues here: progressive and culture. I haven't commented on which state is presumed to be better and won't. But as for "progressive," a definition of the word is in order.

Many folks consider progressive to mean: 1) accepting of all others (race, religion, creed, ethnicity, sexual orientation, marital status) and illustrating it by changing laws to protect all citizens; 2) willing to challenge the status quo for the greater good (universal health care, environmental laws, banning smoking in public places, banning the use of cell phones while driving); 3) advancing and supporting medical research (stem cells); and 4) making education available to all.

Some folks consider progressive to mean: 1) creating a business climate that supports economic development and population growth.

North Carolina isn't the reddest of the Red states. The fact that it's growing isn't a result of it being progressive. It's more likely a result of a better (perceived) business climate and weather. (I totally disagree with the latter, by the way.)

As for the Whalers, Hartford wasn't their first home. Whether they gave it a valiant effort or not, who's to say. Anyone familiar with Connecticut realizes that we have our pick of MLB, NFL, or NHL teams from which to choose because of our proximity to New York and Boston. The Whalers' fanbase was up for grabs: Whalers, Islanders, Rangers, and Bruins. Sports are extremely popular here as witnessed by our support of UConn Basketball and the rivalry of NYY and BOS.
 
Old 06-11-2007, 08:48 AM
 
Location: NC USA
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NC is actually a very progressive state in terms of taking care of its people and not caving in to political interests or PC ideals. They generally try to do what is right which is progessive as it gets. A general statement, true, and we do find our problems down here as well.
 
Old 06-11-2007, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Tempe, AZ
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to mean: 1) accepting of all others (race, religion, creed, ethnicity, sexual orientation, marital status) and illustrating it by changing laws to protect all citizens; 2) willing to challenge the status quo for the greater good (universal health care, environmental laws, banning smoking in public places, banning the use of cell phones while driving); 3) advancing and supporting medical research (stem cells); and 4) making education available to all.
"Willing to challenge the status quo for the greater good" - that sounds like socialism to me, and socialism is the complete antithesis to being progressive.
 
Old 06-11-2007, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Connecticut
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I am conservative yet I consider myself to be very progressive. Why does it appear to me that many liberal people are so arrogant that they think that places that don't fit their liberal ideas are not progressive?

What evidence do you have to show that Connecticut has more culture than North Carolina. The NHL hockey team Hartford Whalers, for example, moved from Connecticut to North Carolina and became the Carolina Hurricanes. The team couldn't make it in Connecticut and moved to North Carolina, where it became very successful and won the Stanley Cup in 2006. Sports are part of a region's culture, so it would appear to me that NC has a cultural advantage over CT.

The NASCAR Hall of Fame is also coming to Charlotte soon. NASCAR, while it has southern roots, is now very popular among people from all parts of the USA from all socioeconomic levels.

If North Carolina is not progressive, then why is it growing at a far faster rate than Connecticut? Most people would rather live in an area that is progressive rather than not progressive. Connecticut is growing very slowly in population so it doesn't appear to be very progressive to me. In my visits to Connecticut, it appears to me that the quality of life in Connecticut lags behind the state where I currently live, Arizona.
Wow, looks like I struck a nerve.

Let me start off by saying I'm not a liberal; actually far from it. I'm a conservative moderate. I'm not arrogant either and if I came across that way, then your way of thinking is skewed.

As for culture. Well, Connecticut has many mom & pop eateries that represent the background of the population in this state (Ecuadorian, Italian, French, Mexican, Chinese, Hibachi, etc). I lived in Charlotte for 8 months, and hated it. It consists of mostly fast food joints with a Papa Johns here and there. Never once did I see a real Italian deli. Never once did I come across a French cafe with freshly made foods. Sushi is hard to come by. Arts, fine dining and entertainment represent culture, IMO. Since when does Culture have ANYTHING to do with sports? LOL, you're kidding, right?

And if you want to brag that CT is growing at a slower rate than NC, well in a few years I don't think you'll be bragging anymore. The only reason people are attracted to NC is the weather (which I find disgusting), and perceived cheap housing (note "perceived") and the idea that their dollar will go further than it does in CT. If you want to brag about NC growing, I'll brag that CT isn't growing! That being said, just because CT's population isn't exploding doesn't mean it's not growing.

I'll second the comment that just because NC is growing, doesn't mean it's progressive.
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