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06-19-2009, 07:54 PM
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06-20-2009, 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by MomOfToo
To brasscity whatever
I am not a troll simply stating my opinion...freedom of speech. If you don't like it, then don't read the posts. Its as simple as that. Oh and I never mentioned NYC schools...I do know that FL does not have the greatest school systems for a fact...as well as Yonkers...simply stating not to take this list to heart because not every school on there should be...some schools test differently....go back to sleep maybe you'll wake up in a better mood.
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I completely agree.
Schools in FL aren't good - at all. We looked into moving to one of the wealthier areas of FL (Sarasota) where they spend more per pupil, and their schools could not compare to the average schools in CT - even in the cities where education is so called "terrible". We even checked out a private school and still weren't impressed.
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06-20-2009, 05:25 AM
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still missing the point but whatever
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06-20-2009, 08:44 AM
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still missing the point but whatever
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Thanks for your opinion, but until you have experience with FL schools, I would refrain from knowing it all.
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06-20-2009, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by brasscitybluenwhite
https://www.nystart.gov/publicweb-rc...2300010048.pdf
I said what I had to say because I felt that she was discrediting kids in Yonkers, who are clearly striving to be their best, just because they lived in Yonkers. Yonkers High School has a highly respectable and rigorous IB program. I'm almost positive that the IB program is what carried it onto the list. So should we discredit their IB program because its in "Yonkers" and not "Ridgefield" or "New Fairfield"?
You are clearly doing the same thing when you say its like "The best football team in the nation." Really? Academics and personal achievement can be compared to athletics?
Besides, what rigorous nationally-accredited and nationally-respected programs does New Fairfield and Ridgefield High School so that they should outrank Yonkers, as you imply? Or did you just name those 2 schools because they're suburban schools in "Connecticut"?
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If you'd look at the above quote, you will clearly see that my response was more focused on the other poster's comment on Yonkers High School. (Nice try to make it a Florida thing but whatever) The posters comment clearly claimed that Yonkers High School had no business on a national list because "people move out of Yonkers because of their schools." Although not really an indicator of how well a school is ranked nationally, I even provided a link to show you how well the school is doing compared against other schools in New York State.
Call it "know it all" all you want to, but at least I provided a statistic. I'm not trying to be ignorant, but notice how I'm the only one that disagreed with the poster? Hmm, maybe its because I grew up in a low income neighborhood where the folks in the suburbs said we couldn't achieve. Hmm, sounds almost like Yonkers.
I'm not trying to get you guys to believe that kids can only make high achievements outside of the suburbs, but I am trying to show you that in the face of facts, you will sound ridiculous if you believe otherwise. Maybe thats not working.
Remember this conversation the next time people ask if Connecticut is "snotty".
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06-20-2009, 07:18 PM
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And I'm still waiting to hear why New Fairfield and Ridgefield should be on the list and Yonkers High School shouldn't. (Besides, of course, the fact that they're in Connecticut, and not Yonkers)
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06-20-2009, 08:45 PM
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I'm not trying to get you guys to believe that kids can only make high achievements outside of the suburbs, but I am trying to show you that in the face of facts, you will sound ridiculous if you believe otherwise.
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I'm not sure who suggested this, other than yourself. You are very standoffish, especially toward those who live in the suburbs.
Don't know why I bother!
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06-20-2009, 09:53 PM
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I wouldn't pay any attention to this list...schools that were on this list for years (Ridgefield and New Fairfield) are not on it now? What, are these school systems failing now? Alot of school systems have pulled out of this study. I see alot of schools for FL on the list, FL schools are not that good...another example, Yonkers NY is # 136...there is noooo way they are the 136th best school in the country...no way! People never move to Yonkers for their schools...they move out!
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It was suggested here.
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06-20-2009, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by kidyankee764
I'm not sure who suggested this, other than yourself. You are very standoffish, especially toward those who live in the suburbs.
Don't know why I bother!
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! This is getting ABSOLUTELY ridiculous!!!! I am being standoffish???
Kid, I have a feeling you are joining the discussion on page 3 and not page 1. Let me explain..
A poster said that Yonkers High School does not belong on the list of the best schools in the country.
Originally Posted by MomOfToo
another example, Yonkers NY is # 136...there is noooo way they are the 136th best school in the country...no way!
Yonkers is a city of 200,000 people that borders the Bronx. Yonkers High School is one of the best high schools in that city, because it has a very successful IB program. I can't say for sure, but I'm sure that is why it made the list. But Yonkers, although it is in Westchester County, isn't a wealthy area at all. For that reason, the poster implied that the school didn't belong on the list, and instead insisted that schools "that have been on the list for years", such as upper class high schools such as Ridgefield and New Fairfield should be on the list.
I know that a lot of people from the suburbs, as you describe, do not believe that urban city students can be high-achieving. I respect that, its your OPINION. But to take a well-cited article from a nationally respected newspaper and discredit it because it listed an urban high school as one of the best in the country is just as ignorant and biased as saying a black student cant succeed because they're black
Its unfortunate that this is the 21st Century and I am in a chat room with grown adults and I am arguing this. Because of my position, in the past 3 you've tried to discredit my opinion, which I even based somewhat on statistics.
https://www.nystart.gov/publicweb-rc...2300010048.pdf
Like I said before, if anyone were to ever ask if the people in Connecticut were snotty, I'll be certain to point them to this thread.
-Discredits school because of socialeconomic class. Shakes head. Only in Connecticut.
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06-21-2009, 12:14 AM
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Lets go through the Florida schools that made the list since you all say Florida schools suck.
Stanton College Prep
Look! its ranked 4th! and it in Florida! Wow Who would have thought. Look! 100% of this school's seniors passed at least 1 AP or IB test. Wow..seriously? And its in FLORIDA? can't be...
Suncoast Community School
This school is ranked 7th in the country. According to the "Advanced Placement Report to the Nation 2005.", It had the world's largest percentage of students who passed the AP Comparative Government test in 2005. Thats in Florida folks!!!!
School for Advanced Studies
This school is ranked number 15 in the country. The same source that ranked the previous school ranked this school number 1 in the world for Advanced Placement (AP) English Literature
Eastside High School
This school has the areas only IB program (#20, also in Florida)
Pine View School for the Gifted
At this Florida school, students must have an IQ of 130 to be accepted.
Anderson School of Arts
LOL, If you don't believe that this is one of the best schools in the country (#43), then you should check their website Douglas Anderson School of the Arts » Achievements
These are just the top high schools in the country, and they happen to be in Florida. These are only the top 50 schools in Florida, and to those who questioned, why they might have obtained their high ranking.
To those who questioned, do you have any statistics or other credible information that would lead someone to believe that the authors information was false? Or was the last 3 pages of complains/disputes against me because you all are full of yourselves?
Discrediting student's achievements should are shameful and its unfortunate that these claims are not disputed by others on this board. High school students in America are awarded every year because of their high achievement, and fortunately, contruary to popular believe, students can still achieve high, even in different socioeconomic classes (you don't have to live in a Connecticut suburb to go to a good high school).
As I have said before, if there is something that i missed about New Fairfield or Ridgefield High School (besides the fact that they're rich high schools in Connecticut), feel free to post it because I've been searching up facts on all of these schools all night and I can't find anything distinguishable (on a national scale)
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