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06-21-2009, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by brasscitybluenwhite
Lets go through the Florida schools that made the list since you all say Florida schools suck.
Stanton College Prep
Look! its ranked 4th! and it in Florida! Wow Who would have thought. Look! 100% of this school's seniors passed at least 1 AP or IB test. Wow..seriously? And its in FLORIDA? can't be...
Suncoast Community School
This school is ranked 7th in the country. According to the "Advanced Placement Report to the Nation 2005.", It had the world's largest percentage of students who passed the AP Comparative Government test in 2005. Thats in Florida folks!!!!
School for Advanced Studies
This school is ranked number 15 in the country. The same source that ranked the previous school ranked this school number 1 in the world for Advanced Placement (AP) English Literature
Eastside High School
This school has the areas only IB program (#20, also in Florida)
Pine View School for the Gifted
At this Florida school, students must have an IQ of 130 to be accepted.
Anderson School of Arts
LOL, If you don't believe that this is one of the best schools in the country (#43), then you should check their website Douglas Anderson School of the Arts » Achievements
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Are these schools public or private? They don't sound like typical town or city public schools.
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06-21-2009, 08:16 AM
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There is no doubt there good high schools in other states, but Connecticut's curriculium is top-notch and anyone will tell you that. Florida has it's fair share of intelligent people, but to compare there public schools with Connecticut's public schools is unheard of.
You talk about Yonkers High School being an excellent school and being in a not so good neighborhood. Yonkers while it has some bad areas, is in Westchester and there are good pockets of the city, believe it or not urban schools in the NE are better than urban schools in the Southeast. If you talk to anyone, education in the Northeast, especially tri-state NY, all of Connecticut and Mass is well ahead of any areas in the nation. This area has valued education since the founding of this nation, while other areas were not even developed.
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06-21-2009, 08:59 AM
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Are these schools public or private? They don't sound like typical town or city public schools.
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The list is clearly ALL public schools. In fact, look them up for yourself.
Nice try.
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06-21-2009, 09:53 AM
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I just find this entire list ridiculous. Many if not most of the schools are only open to a select few, such as the magnet schools, or those with high IQ's etc. I think they are taking liberties with the term "public" schools. At least Florida has those top schools though, because looking at the ratings for the rest of their public schools, they are pretty low.
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06-21-2009, 09:54 AM
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I just find this entire list ridiculous. Many if not most of the schools are only open to a select few, such as the magnet schools, or those with high IQ's etc. I think they are taking liberties with the term "public" schools. At least Florida has those top schools though, because looking at the ratings for the rest of their public schools, they are pretty low.
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I agree.
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06-21-2009, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by andthentherewere3
I just find this entire list ridiculous. Many if not most of the schools are only open to a select few, such as the magnet schools, or those with high IQ's etc. I think they are taking liberties with the term "public" schools. At least Florida has those top schools though, because looking at the ratings for the rest of their public schools, they are pretty low.
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Of course. Many/most of the schools have highly respected IB or AP programs. They are very rigorous and your right-alot of the schools toward the top of the list, the require the students to take IQ tests. But they're public schools and even if they do a good job of weeding out the good students from the bad, they still deserve the recognition.
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06-21-2009, 11:05 AM
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I grew up in a small Mississippi city with several colleges. One of the first schools I attended was in a rural community. I always thought that is where I received the best education. No, the rural school did not have as much $$ as the city but the individual attention that students had was a big factor in the success of that school. Another important thing to consider is really it is all about what you put into your own education...speaking from a parent's and student's perspective. I saw the drop off in attention when I went to the bigger school. To say that one student is smarter than the other because of where they went to school (state vs state) is not right or fair to the students. We must put things into perspective when looking at these lists. What about those students who are really smart and score high on SAT/ACTs but simply don't want to put in the extra effort it takes to attend an AP class? I simply do not agree with putting down kids in one state because they are not in living your state. We live in times where schools are closing and teacher's are being laid off. Parents and Students must step up--don't let some list distract you. The bigger picture is the Students.
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06-21-2009, 12:51 PM
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! This is getting ABSOLUTELY ridiculous!!!! I am being standoffish???
Kid, I have a feeling you are joining the discussion on page 3 and not page 1. Let me explain..
A poster said that Yonkers High School does not belong on the list of the best schools in the country.
Originally Posted by MomOfToo
another example, Yonkers NY is # 136...there is noooo way they are the 136th best school in the country...no way!
Yonkers is a city of 200,000 people that borders the Bronx. Yonkers High School is one of the best high schools in that city, because it has a very successful IB program. I can't say for sure, but I'm sure that is why it made the list. But Yonkers, although it is in Westchester County, isn't a wealthy area at all. For that reason, the poster implied that the school didn't belong on the list, and instead insisted that schools "that have been on the list for years", such as upper class high schools such as Ridgefield and New Fairfield should be on the list.
I know that a lot of people from the suburbs, as you describe, do not believe that urban city students can be high-achieving. I respect that, its your OPINION. But to take a well-cited article from a nationally respected newspaper and discredit it because it listed an urban high school as one of the best in the country is just as ignorant and biased as saying a black student cant succeed because they're black
Its unfortunate that this is the 21st Century and I am in a chat room with grown adults and I am arguing this. Because of my position, in the past 3 you've tried to discredit my opinion, which I even based somewhat on statistics.
https://www.nystart.gov/publicweb-rc...2300010048.pdf
Like I said before, if anyone were to ever ask if the people in Connecticut were snotty, I'll be certain to point them to this thread.
-Discredits school because of socialeconomic class. Shakes head. Only in Connecticut.
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I'm quite aware of how this thread has progressed, thanks.
Regarding what's in bold above - are you fricken' kidding me???   
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06-21-2009, 02:19 PM
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how many schools in your state have 5000 students? and the schools are still over crowded? miami dade has about 4.
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06-21-2009, 03:10 PM
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Funny - Mr. Waterbury brought it to the Florida forum in hopes of causing trouble and further debate, but instead their responses mirrored ours. 
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