[Unknown Memory]

Originally Posted by shoehoard

Chick-Fil-A

I never really notice until this thread that there is not a single Chick-Fil-A past my state and NYC. O.o I thought Chick-Fil-A was a big enough chain to dominate the eastern part of the country? (Much like Jack-in-the-Box for the West and Texas, White Castle for the other half of the country, Wawa seems to be scared of returning north-east, etc.)

Well, I guess that's good, in a nutrional sense for upstate NY and New Englanders. Although, I kinda grew up with this chain (and Wendy's), I'm not big on fast food. (I dislike McDonald's to bits so wherever I go on this planet, I try to avoid one unless for picture taking.)

It's good to have a mixture of restaurants rather than all chain restaurants. Less chains and more healthier options for people to eat at.

[Lowerdeck]

Originally Posted by Unknown Memory

I never really notice until this thread that there is not a single Chick-Fil-A past my state and NYC. O.o I thought Chick-Fil-A was a big enough chain to dominate the eastern part of the country?

There's three in New England, all of them in malls. All are north of Boston.

Burlington MA
Peabody MA (North Shore)
Nashua NH (Pheasant Lane)

I knew about the one in Burlington, just went and looked up the others.

[7 Wishes]

Originally Posted by Unknown Memory

I never really notice until this thread that there is not a single Chick-Fil-A past my state and NYC. O.o I thought Chick-Fil-A was a big enough chain to dominate the eastern part of the country? (Much like Jack-in-the-Box for the West and Texas, White Castle for the other half of the country, Wawa seems to be scared of returning north-east, etc.)

Well, I guess that's good, in a nutrional sense for upstate NY and New Englanders. Although, I kinda grew up with this chain (and Wendy's), I'm not big on fast food. (I dislike McDonald's to bits so wherever I go on this planet, I try to avoid one unless for picture taking.)

It's good to have a mixture of restaurants rather than all chain restaurants. Less chains and more healthier options for people to eat at.

Actually White Castle only exists in the Midwest and some adjacent parts of the south (like Tennessee), then for some reason there's an "island" of them here in the metro NYC area.

Isn't Wawa mostly in the Philly area with just a few outside of that?

But then to really be "local" and yet a chain, there's Duchess, which is only found in Fairfield and New Haven counties and no where else period.

[StarlaJane]

I remember when I first moved to Texas (and thereby saw my first Chick-Fil-A), I was totally confused about the name, as I was pronouncing the "A" as a short "a;" I had no idea what it was about until a local Texan pronounced it properly for me. I swear I never would have figured it out if someone hadn't told me.
To this day, I have never eaten in a Chick-Fil-A, mostly b/c the name makes me feel so uneasy *LOL*

[TriMT7]

Originally Posted by Stratford, Ct. Resident

That chart is from 2007. 2009 data can be found here:RAW DATA: State Obesity Rankings - Health News | Current Health News | Medical News - FOXNews.com
CT has a 21.3% rate, FL has a 24.1% rate. I know i've also mentioned previously that FL and AZ's numbers are skewed downward a bit because of a larger than average elderly population. Removing these elders from the statistics would increase the reported obesity percentages in each of those states.

Oh, ok, so now we have three different charts and graphs, with different results. on each. FACT is that Florida ranks nowhere near the "top" in any of them.

By the way.... the percent of people over 65 in CT is 13.5%. In FL, it's 17%. 3.5%? That's not a huge amount of difference.

What IS different is a higher population of minorities in Florida (African Americans and Latinos have traditionally higher BMIs than other groups), and the Southern diet.

It's amazing how perception from other states like CT and disgruntled transplants can differ so much from people who actually live here, and complain about the opposite --- how everyone is pressured to be thin and look good!

[TriMT7]

Originally Posted by seain dublin;

We are on the west coast of Florida. We lived in Southern CA for many years and I see way more obese people here than I ever did there.

Southern CA is more comparable to Miami and South Florida in terms of superficial culture.

Originally Posted by seain dublin

I go by what I see.

Exactly. But as I mentioned above -- perception vs. reality.

Originally Posted by seain dublin

Including many young people. Why can't people in Florida take any criticism?

There are many things to criticize. However, when a particular poster seems to spend almost every post on the state bizarrely complaining about things most people could care less or never even thought about, it gets annoying. FL is far from perfect.


What I think is funny, is that SO MANY PEOPLE on City-Data can't process anything that runs contrary to their predisposed OPINIONS. On the Florida board I have wasted so much time showing data, statistics, etc. to present a counter-opinion, only to be met with the same attitude you have, "you expect me to believe the truth?"

Originally Posted by seain dublin

It is also the lightning capital of North America.

So? This has been a secret for how long?

Originally Posted by seain dublin

I also find the drivers to be the worst I have ever seen, I used to enjoy driving before coming here. And being from CA(though not a native) I get tired of all the bad drivers being labeled as from out of state. Because CA is also loaded with transplants. Yet I have seem more "stunts" pulled on the roads down here than anywhere else.

Again, YOUR perception. Let's take a look at a survey/ranking that actually used some type of objectified input data to come up with its ranking:

http://autos.yahoo.com/articles/auto...-drivers-live/

38 TENNESSEE
38 MISSISSIPPI
40 SOUTH CAROLINA
40 MARYLAND
42 CONNECTICUT
43 FLORIDA
44 DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA
45 MASSACHUSETTS
46 RHODE ISLAND
47 GEORGIA
48 CALIFORNIA
49 HAWAII
50 NEW JERSEY
51 NEW YORK

(Where New York is given the "worst driver" designation).

http://autos.yahoo.com/articles/auto...-drivers-live/

Originally Posted by seain dublin

Driving a car here is scary enough....LOL.

Well, lol, looks like when you go back up North you'll have basically the same or worse to contend with.

Good luck!

[kidyankee764]

Originally Posted by TriMT7

By the way.... the percent of people over 65 in CT is 13.5%. In FL, it's 17%. 3.5%? That's not a huge amount of difference

A good percentage of FL's elderly do not live in FL long enough to be considered a full-time resident. They would be factored in with the statistics of their home state.

And hold on here just a second. You are complaining that people on C-D can't accept others opinions...

Originally Posted by TriMT7

What I think is funny, is that SO MANY PEOPLE on City-Data can't process anything that runs contrary to their predisposed OPINIONS. On the Florida board I have wasted so much time showing data, statistics, etc. to present a counter-opinion, only to be met with the same attitude you have, "you expect me to believe the truth?"

Originally Posted by TriMT7

Again, YOUR perception. Let's take a look at a survey/ranking that actually used some type of objectified input data to come up with its ranking:

...then fault someone for having one. You are challenging the real life experiences of another with a list that can't accurately paint a picture of the issue at hand.

By the way - statistics do not show reality. They can be skewed any which way the presenter would like. But since you love statistics so much, lets see a methodology instead of blindly posting the "results".

[JViello]

Originally Posted by kidyankee764

By the way - statistics do not show reality. They can be skewed any which way the presenter would like. But since you love statistics so much, lets see a methodology instead of blindly posting the "results".

Exactly, see below:

Originally Posted by TriMT7

Oh, ok, so now we have three different charts and graphs, with different results. on each. FACT is that Florida ranks nowhere near the "top" in any of them.

By the way.... the percent of people over 65 in CT is 13.5%. In FL, it's 17%. 3.5%? That's not a huge amount of difference.

What IS different is a higher population of minorities in Florida (African Americans and Latinos have traditionally higher BMIs than other groups), and the Southern diet.

It's amazing how perception from other states like CT and disgruntled transplants can differ so much from people who actually live here, and complain about the opposite --- how everyone is pressured to be thin and look good!

17% of what? 13.5% of what?

Going strictly by population numbers Florida has over 3,000,000 (That's 3 million in case you can't figure it out) "elderly"

CT just over 400,000 "elderly".

But to you, it's just 3.5% - not much difference. Funny how 2.6 million people isn't "much" these days when it's almost our entire state population. lol

P.S. I lived in Florida for 5 years of my life...I think that makes me qualified to have an "opinion".

[TriMT7]

Originally Posted by kidyankee764

A good percentage of FL's elderly do not live in FL long enough to be considered a full-time resident. They would be factored in with the statistics of their home state.

If they aren't considered a full-time resident, they wouldn't be factored into the "BMI calculation" of the state, would they? If they aren't "residents," then they aren't "artifically skewing the fat people numbers down" as asserted above.

But thank you for making the point.

Originally Posted by kidyankee

And hold on here just a second. You are complaining that people on C-D can't accept others opinions...

Opinion? Accepted if verified or based in what we call "reality," and neither rose colored, nor jaded and bitter lenses.





...then fault someone for having one. You are challenging the real life experiences of another with a list that can't accurately paint a picture of the issue at hand.

By the way - statistics do not show reality. They can be skewed any which way the presenter would like. But since you love statistics so much, lets see a methodology instead of blindly posting the "results".[/quote]

[TriMT7]

Originally Posted by JViello

Exactly, see below:



17% of what? 13.5% of what?

Doesn't matter "of what." Please don't tell me I have to explain WHY it doesn't matter when dealing with statistics?

Originally Posted by JViello

P.S. I lived in Florida for 5 years of my life...I think that makes me qualified to have an "opinion".

When did you live here? If you're basing your opinions on living here just 5 years ago, a LOT has changed! This is an ever-changing state, constantly in flux.

Nonetheless, you ARE entitled to opinion. Such as, "it's very hot in Florida." BUT, if you're going to say, "Florida has the worst drivers in the country".... well, then at least be prepared to challenge statistics based on verifiable data as opposed to, "I was cut off every day driving on roads in Florida."

Do they not teach Aristotillean Logic in schools anymore?