[kidyankee764]

Originally Posted by Thruway

The Q Poll is wrong and clearly overstates the Boston influence.

I know a thing or two about polling.
They should take that poll several times during the year, they should ask people under the age of 18, and the questions in general lead to a "bandwagon effect."

The best evidence is this....in 2003 the Yanks lead by 15%...their highest...in 2008 the Sox lead by 1%...their highest...thus the Yanks at their highest crushed the Sox who only lead for one year....aggregate shows CT is much more a Yankee state which make sense because the gravity model would show the city which is 1) closer to CT and 2) a bigger market would 3) have more influence culturally.

Stick it NESN and Theo Epstein...stop trying to claim Southern CT is yours and that New England is your country.
Tri-State NY is our country.
Your country is where they drop their 'r's.

Welcome back, bluecountry.

[Thruway]

Originally Posted by Lowerdeck

Milford is definitely not 50/50, neither is New Haven or the towns around it. New Haven I can't even picture being 70/30.

When was the last time you saw an Italian Red Sox fan from Connecticut?

Exactly....on the Red Sox board after the Q poll was released they were moaning claiming that "Milford is 50/50 because it is more tied to New Haven which is more tied to New England"
ROTFLMAO....yea...too bad we get NY TV stations NOT Boston stations...too bad we get Metro North NOT the MBTA.
They really have this annoying inferority complex that New England is there's...they can not admit and concede there is NO state of New England...it is a region as is the New York tri state region.

[Thruway]

Originally Posted by 7 Wishes

While I agree that New Haven County is mostly Yankees, I do think it is also where you start to see a few Sox fans, perhaps because they moved there from originally being closer to Boston, or perhaps because the ratio of NY/Boston distance, while still closer to NY, is like 1/3 vs. 2/3, so it's not like you're on top of NYC (more on this theory in my last paragraph). And believe me, I'm a Yankees fan from NY so I'm not saying this to boost the Sox at all, just honest observation from time spent up there.

My guess for New Haven County would be somewhere between 80/20 Yanks and 90/10 Yanks. Now Fairfield County on the other hand, I would think what few Sox fans there are (and I would honestly put it at 5% if that, maybe even 1%) are people who moved there from closer to Boston. It really much more than New Haven County is fully NYC metro.

Now one last thought on this, a theory on why there are ANY Sox fans in New Haven County. This summer I met someone from New Haven and someone from Waterbury who were both Sox fans. They have never lived outside of their respective areas and were never fans of the Yankees or another team. I was curious given the geography and asked why and got an interesting response. They said while they lived closer to NY than Boston, it was still faraway enough from NYC that they liked to consider themselves as not being part of the "New York" culture (i.e. they watched the Hartford/New Haven/Waterbury TV stations, not the NY ones, though the guy in New Haven got them as well) and one manifestation of it was to support the Red Sox over the Yankees. This may explain some of why you'd have a small but noteworthy amount of Red Sox fans in NH County.

I do disagree with the Q poll though, the numbers seem way to high for NH and unbelievable for Fairfield (though the "other" part could be the Mets there, but I've heard that Fairfield has very few Mets fans because it's much easier to go to Yankee Stadium than to Shea/Citi Field given distance, toll bridge, etc., same reason why Westchester is mostly Yankees and not Mets).

I agree...You start to see AFTER New Haven some Sox fans...but they are still the big minority.
Also the Q poll is horrible...they treat who do you root for like you are asking somebody which candidate do you support.

Does anybody really think the Yanks, who led by 15 points in 2003....and now by 3-4 points...the gap could fall that large?
People would turn in their jerseys this fast?
They are clearly measuring and asking the WRONG questions.

[Thruway]

Originally Posted by TheseGoTo11

The Red Sox are on NESN in New Haven, but the Steelers are not carried on CBS locally. Not to mention the fact that you can get the games on radio throughout most of the state on 1080 AM from Hartford. Steeler games are not on the radio in CT. Your point is absurd.

Cross the Q-Bridge and the Red Sox presence gets very noticeable, as is the shift in landscape to more traditional New England. No question Sox are a minority up to Clinton or Westbrook, but their support between New Haven and Old Saybrook is a lot like the Mets' fanbase in Manhattan - the second most popular regional team.

NESN is not on in most of New Haven and west of New Haven it is not carried...nor should it be.

My point is not absurd.
The Bruins are on NESN but you don't see any Bruins fans in New Haven County.
Steelers/Cowboys/Red Sox fans in FF and NH county=bandwagon NOT due to local geography.

[Thruway]

Originally Posted by JViello

Kind of...West of the River in Hartford (Farmington Valley and north to Granby, Suffield etc) has plenty of Sox fans. I'd call it 50/50 actually.

It's a weird East/West - North/South slanted kind of line thing IMO.

Then again, I've got my in-laws in Wallingford who are die hard Sox fans.

I guess my MIL's family being from Boston originally might have some influence, but WHATever.

Why in Wallingford when that is 2X closer to NY....tied to New Haven which is tied to Metro NY and they get NY not BOS network stations?

[Thruway]

Originally Posted by 7 Wishes

Last weekend the NY Daily News had a great pullout section all about the Yankees-Sox rivalry (and surprisingly from BOTH angles) which had articles on interesting side notes like an 80 year old native Bostonian who's lived there all his life but has always rooted for the Yankees since his teens because Joe DiMaggio gave him "Italian pride" as a kid, and a "Red Sox" bar in midtown Manhattan. Anyway, just thought I'd give that as an interesting response.

Another side note to that not related to the article is that I've noticed in recent years during games where the Yankees and Red Sox play each other on TV that you actually sometimes see fans in Sox gear at Yankee stadium and vice versa (though less of that since Fenway is smaller stadium and more likely to sell out with locals, especially since the new Stadium opened).

As a kid in the late 70s/early 80s I don't remember ever seeing anything like that; I remember hearing stories like if you're a Yankees fan and go up to Boston to see Fenway Park for the history, etc., don't go when they play the Yankees because you'll get beat up if you wear Yankees cap/pinstripes or root for them at a level where you can be heard (and also stories that if a Boston fan did the reverse in the Yankee stadium bleachers, they may get knifed.....now NYC was pretty bad with crime back then but I think it was more of a legend).

Do you have a link?
Did they talk about CT?

[JViello]

Originally Posted by Thruway

Why in Wallingford when that is 2X closer to NY....tied to New Haven which is tied to Metro NY and they get NY not BOS network stations?

I wasn't talking to you - nor wish too.

[7 Wishes]

Originally Posted by Thruway

Do you have a link?
Did they talk about CT?

Mine is a paper copy, you can try the Daily News website itself and search.......they didn't talk about CT though. Just thought you'd still find it interesting.

Originally Posted by JViello

I wasn't talking to you - nor wish too.

Yeah, I knew that, just thought the pullout was interesting to note.....I do agree this topic is getting out of hand though.