[Cambium]

Originally Posted by 7 Wishes

Did the 5" NYC snowfall on March 22, 1998 (the only snowfall over 1" for CPK for 1997-98 winter) miss CT I wonder?

Hmm, could that be an error for CPK data?

Some posts regarding that storm for NYC. Sounds like it hit 80s shortly after. NYC's worst winters for snow lovers - American Weather

Here's a description of what that storm did. It was a Spring NorEaster with some snow mixed in. Northern CT up to 9"
NCDC: Event Details (http://www4.ncdc.noaa.gov/cgi-win/wwcgi.dll?wwevent~ShowEvent~313727 - broken link)

But was a mix for Northern Litchfield 1-3". NCDC: Event Details (http://www4.ncdc.noaa.gov/cgi-win/wwcgi.dll?wwevent~ShowEvent~313726 - broken link)

So maybe BDR didnt accumulate??

Here's NYTimes article on that winter that never was. New York's Winter That Wasn't Inches Toward a Record - NYTimes.com

Originally Posted by 7 Wishes

Interesting how it between 1997 and 2003 there wasn't a measurable snowfall in March, I don't believe there's even a period of more than 2 years like that otherwise on that chart.

Good catch. Also interesting that you brought that up. The Earths warmest year was 1997, that was the Globe's peak warmest year since..

[Cambium]

And yeah, that is an excellent statistic to find out. Which is more rare, 80 degrees or 6 inch snowstorms in March. I'd like to see more data on that....and preferrably not just one location.

[mikelizard860]

What's really amazing this year is the lack of snow in the northwest hills. I've seen years where hartford misses out, but the nw hills get nailed. Not this year. These are area's that average around 75 inches a year around 1000 feet. They really haven't had much more snow than the hartford area this year. And of course Hartford is WAY below normal. Does anyone have any data on total seasonal snowfall so far this year in winsted or nearby locations?

[7 Wishes]

Originally Posted by wavehunter007

Look at it another way...if one wanted to hype it in the opposite direction....there has been 8 times that a daily high of 80 F (or higher ) has occured in March at Danbury. So there is more of a chance of seeing an 80 F day in Danbury in March....

That's actually true, I learned that in my Albany days.....March 31, 1986 it was 86 degrees there (record for the month) and "only" around 70 in NYC. Has to do with the ocean and Sound being cold that time of year and keeping unusually warm daytime temps down near the coast.

Originally Posted by Cambium

Hmm, could that be an error for CPK data?

Some posts regarding that storm for NYC. Sounds like it hit 80s shortly after. NYC's worst winters for snow lovers - American Weather

Here's a description of what that storm did. It was a Spring NorEaster with some snow mixed in. Northern CT up to 9"
NCDC: Event Details (http://www4.ncdc.noaa.gov/cgi-win/wwcgi.dll?wwevent%7EShowEvent%7E313727 - broken link)

But was a mix for Northern Litchfield 1-3". NCDC: Event Details (http://www4.ncdc.noaa.gov/cgi-win/wwcgi.dll?wwevent%7EShowEvent%7E313726 - broken link)

So maybe BDR didnt accumulate??

Here's NYTimes article on that winter that never was. New York's Winter That Wasn't Inches Toward a Record - NYTimes.com



Good catch. Also interesting that you brought that up. The Earths warmest year was 1997, that was the Globe's peak warmest year since..

I was living in White Plains at the time and remember that amount of snow, so I don't think it was an error, but it's one reason I wish more in the way of BDR data was posted on the OKX site. I was ready to assume maybe it was something like the weird storm last year where all of CT got rain and NYC and Westchester got all snow, but I suspiciously noticed March, 2001 missing too and think it's too much of a coincidence (and too much of a gap compared to the rest of the record).

[Cambium]

Originally Posted by mikelizard860

Does anyone have any data on total seasonal snowfall so far this year in winsted or nearby locations?

Well Hartford (Windsor Locks BDL) is at 19.1" for the year. Not enough stations or accurate data from Winsted or nearby towns but figure its not going to be that far off unless your above 2000 feet where accumulation amounts differ.

[Cambium]

Feb. 18th:

Originally Posted by Cambium

At least the Last GFS run is keeping its consistancy as in... JUST NUTS
Below normal temps including sub zero by end of month.
Rain to Snow event twice and a big 2 foot snowstorm by March 1st.
{enter sarcasm here}

Feb 20th

Originally Posted by Cambium

Snowstorm still showing up for around the 1st.

Uh oh.. What are the odds that the GFS showed this (now doesnt)
The Euro didnt show it (now does) and for same time frame.

GFS has been horrible all year showing these storms then not happening but Euro has had a better track record not showing this big hits.

Here's the latest Euro from today. Storm comes from TN Valley moves NorthEast at a perfect track that would give southern CT 12"+. Northern CT 6-10"



Here's how the snow totals look (BASED ON THIS RUN ONLY)

[mikelizard860]

Originally Posted by Cambium

Well Hartford (Windsor Locks BDL) is at 19.1" for the year. Not enough stations or accurate data from Winsted or nearby towns but figure its not going to be that far off unless your above 2000 feet where accumulation amounts differ.

TOTAL Horse manure. That's absolutely false. There's a HUGE difference between bdl, at 173 feet and up at 1000 feet around norfolk/winsted. Average seasonal snowfall approaches 90 inches vs upper 40s around windsor locks. BDL is NOT the nw hills. It's the far north ct river valley.

http://ncdc.noaa.gov/ussc/USSCAppCon...&coopid=065445

Oh and no town in CT is at around 2000 feet. Only near the highest point in the state does that elevation exist in ct.Temps drop 3.6 degree ON AVERAGE for every 1000 feet. So an average jan high of 34.6 becomes 31.6 in just 1000 feet. Elevation plays a HUGE role in climate around here.

[7 Wishes]

Originally Posted by mikelizard860

Elevation plays a HUGE role in climate around here.

As does distance from the water.....

[mikelizard860]

Originally Posted by 7 Wishes

As does distance from the water.....

Absolutely. It's also a tight gradient too. The first 10 miles you go inland there is a HUGE difference. Much Less so after that amount. Not a big difference between wallingford and dowtown hartford for example, but a huge difference between new haven right on the water and wallingford.

Storm track also plays a big part. NW CT and the berkshires are in the bullseye for coastal nor'easters. One of The reasons SE CT gets so little snow compared to sw coastal ct is because of the average storm track. The majority of storms track too close and they end up on the warm side of the storm. Even if you go inland all the way to norwich, there's still VERY little snow. Bad position in the usual storm track.

Classic set up is NW CT getting all snow,
84 corridor- all snow to mix
SW coastal ct- All mix
SE CT- mostly rain.

A lot has to happen for coastal ct, especially in the SE, to get a all snow event.(blocking, a ton of cold air in place ect.) Mixing/ice garbage is common in se ct instead of just snow.

[Cambium]

Originally Posted by mikelizard860

TOTAL Horse manure. That's absolutely false. There's a HUGE difference between bdl, at 173 feet and up at 1000 feet around norfolk/winsted. Average seasonal snowfall approaches 90 inches vs upper 40s around windsor locks. BDL is NOT the nw hills. It's the far north ct river valley.

lmao! Total typo there. Yes...1000 feet NOT 2000 of course. Most reason being is cause it sticks quicker. So add a couple more inches for you. But a system carrying 1" of moisture will not drop 1.25" on Winsted and .75 on BDL. lol But yeah, I meant 1000 feet not 2000 and there's always a couple inch difference..

Edit: Winsted:
3.5" January 21: http://forgethandstands.wikidot.com/20120112st

18" in October: http://www.erh.noaa.gov/aly/Past/2011/October_29-30_2011/PNS.txt

Total of 21.5", I'm sure there was 1/2" here and there also.