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Old 04-23-2010, 02:45 PM
 
Location: New England
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You can't compare the results of a private school to public schools. Private schools get to pick and choose their students. People willing to pay the extra cost are those that will make sure their kids will learn. If you gave them all of the students including special needs and problem kids, they too would flounder and their costs would escalate. Jay
I don't totally disagree, but FYI the example I'm using is a church based school. They accept everyone so long as everyone accepts what they teach.

Besides, I can't see special needs children running up the costs to the degree they are. I think the main culprit is the money grab going on salarywise.

Just my $0.02
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Old 04-23-2010, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Texas
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You can't compare the results of a private school to public schools. Private schools get to pick and choose their students. People willing to pay the extra cost are those that will make sure their kids will learn. If you gave them all of the students including special needs and problem kids, they too would flounder and their costs would escalate. Jay
Private employers don't incur the costs of the gold plated pensions and benefits that public sector jobs have.

And then there's the administrative bureaucracy in public schools ...
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Old 04-23-2010, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Live in NY State, work in CT
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Hi OP, I have had a lot of other posts in these forums on the subject as I'm a mid-career changer who just got at CT teaching certificate (in middle school math). You can search for my past posts, but I'll try to summarize my thoughts rather than "write a book" once again:

1) My view is a combination of what JayCT and JViello said, there are some areas/places where I think the employment picture is a bit brighter than it looks (more later), but a lot of the issue relates to things like "rubber rooms" draining wasteful $$$ (I don't know how big a problem that is in CT but it sure is one in NYC and I can't believe they are alone.....look it up) layoffs being purely based on seniority (unlike some, I do believe if there were NO such protection than the reverse of today would happen.....that is, instead of new teachers being canned no matter how good they are veterans would be canned no matter how good they are.....so some sort of protection is needed but in a more balanced way, the current "absolute" goes way too far), it's certainly not that taxes are too low and need to be raised ad infinitum, that is just insane and unrealistic.

2) As for the job market:

- If you are ELL, special ed, or secondary level math, science or (unlike the past) English/reading, there will be openings, but it will not be like 5 years ago where if you had the background all you really needed after that was a pulse to get a job. There will be layoffs in these areas too, but there will be considerable openings. Most of these openings will be in "inner cities", especially Hartford, Bridgeport, New Haven and maybe Waterbury and New Britiain

- Many of the rich Fairfield Co. districts (and a few others like Avon and Farmington) have always been sought after and always been a tough job market, it's just even worse now.

- The majority of layoffs in both CT and elsewhere are going to be in art, music, gym, general elementary (because even in good times there are like 50 or 100 applicants per elementary vacancy), and to a lesser extent in Social Studies at all grade levels. Again, this doesn't mean there won't be layoffs elsewhere, but if you are one of these you will have an extremely tough time getting a job.


I think in general when it comes to education and education funding we are going through a revolution; I don't think it's as simple as teachers will get laid off and class sizes will grow, I think over the next 5-10 years you are going to see a big reorganization where tenure gets loosened (but probably not eliminated completely), where art, music, and gym are going to be de-emphasized (and in some schools eliminated, right or wrong) and math, science, reading and to a lesser extent social studies are going to be more of the core purpose of schools (note that the Courant article cited earlier in this thread had as one line, "Most superintendents and school boards are trying to shield students and core subjects from the brunt of the cuts by reducing other areas.", it is very telling). Many layoffs are also caused by districts losing enrollment to private and charter schools. All of this is forcing (again, right or wrong) a revolution that is in the next 10 years going to change American education more than it has in the last 75.
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Old 04-24-2010, 01:21 PM
 
Location: 10 Park Street
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Texas to West Haven , really and truly, it is a GREAT town very kid friendly! You do get alot for your taxes, "VOTED FRIENDLIEST CITY" IN CONN. With your husband speaking fluent Spanish I feel he could have great chance in a system. Spanish is rising here! I work for the WH Board of Education. lol I have owned / lived in our home for since I was born. I raised my 2 sons here and they both did great in the school system. As a matter of fact I told my husband if we ever moved it would have to be out of state because 'WEST HAVEN HAS MY HEART"

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Old 04-26-2010, 01:35 PM
 
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Very hard to find a job teaching English now. Only jobs available lately are special ed and reading specialists. I would find the job, then move.
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Old 04-26-2010, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Live in NY State, work in CT
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I happen to know working somewhat in the "inside" that Bridgeport is having a lot of openings for substitute teachers. In a normal economy, they are that way because many don't want to deal with subbing in an inner-city school environment, but in the last year or so most districts stopped taking sub applications or simply didn't have a lot of openings because a lot of laid off teachers started subbing and many unemployed people did it as a "stopgap" job since if you are working as one and suddenly have a job interview, you can usually refuse an assignment and still get another one another day.

They are actually (this is on their website now) paying $100/day for subs, which isn't exactly a regular teaching salary, but it's more than most districts pay for subbing (the ones my wife and I have subbed at general pay about $70-90/day). So if you move here because of your spouse and have trouble getting a job maybe you'd want to do that to get "your foot in the door" for when an open position occurs. Just a thought......
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