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Old 05-11-2010, 07:31 PM
 
Location: New England
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LMFAO!! YES!!! You got a great memory! I never sprayed anything on property(DOT just sprayed nest) and I keep holding off on spraying for ticks.

Yes, I fear my life from bugs. Mosquitos always after me. Ticks always after my dog. Allergic to bees. Hate Spiders.

This is probably why I love winter.. NO BUGS.
LOL - I'll go with Tetto's suggestion then.
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Old 05-12-2010, 06:12 AM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Here's a cost of living breakdown by state. Would it suprise you CT is on the Top of list?
CL means Cost of Living. HC means housing Costs. They used 2nd quarter and 4th quarters of 2009.

Cost of Living by State

STATE..............CL2q09......CL4q09......HC2q09. .....HC4q09

ALABAMA................92.6.............xxx....... ......79.8..............xxx
ALASKA.................126.4.............xxx...... .....137.7..............xxx

ARIZONA................104.6............xxx....... ....117.0...............xxx


ARKANSAS...............90.8.............xxx....... .....79.0...............xxx



CALIFORNIA............135.1............xxx........ ...194.2...............xxx


COLORADO.............102.8.............xxx........ ...111.6...............xxx


CONNECTICUT........125.3.............xxx.......... .152.1................xxx


DELAWARE.............101.4.............xxx........ ....91.2................xxx



FLORIDA................101.1.............xxx...... .....100.6...............xxx

GEORGIA.................90.9.............xxx...... .......79.1...............xxx

HAWAII.................164.9.............xxx...... ......242.3...............xxx



IDAHO....................92.2.............xxx..... .........81.4...............xxx



ILLINOIS.................96.2.............xxx..... .........90.2...............xxx

INDIANA..................92.4.............xxx..... .........84.0...............xxx



IOWA.....................93.5.............xxx..... ..........89.3...............xxx

KANSAS..................91.7.............xxx...... .........87.7...............xxx



KENTUCKY...............90.4.............xxx....... ........79.1...............xxx



LOUISIANA...............95.9..............xxx..... .........93.6...............xxx


MAINE....................114.9.............xxx.... .........139.1...............xxx


MARYLAND..............125.8.............xxx....... ......172.9...............xxx


MASSACHUSETTS.....123.3.............xxx........... ..138.6...............xxx
MICHIGAN.................96.0.............xxx..... ..........91.9..............xxx

MINNESOTA.............102.8.............xxx....... ........97.6..............xxx

MISSISSIPPI..............92.5.............xxx..... ..........78.3..............xxx

MISSOURI.................91.1..............xxx.... ..........80.9..............xxx

MONTANA................102.6.............xxx...... .......100.3..............xxx



NEBRASKA.................90.9.............xxx..... ..........85.2..............xxx

NEVADA..................105.1.............xxx..... .........111.3..............xxx

NEW HAMPSHIRE......117.4.............xxx.............. .118.0..............xxx


NEW JERSEY............126.5.............xxx........... ....162.3.............xxx


NEW MEXICO...........100.0.............xxx............ ...102.3..............xxx


NEW YORK...............125.2............xxx........... ....159.0..............xxx

NORTH CAROLINA.......96.4.............xxx............... .87.9..............xxx

NORTH DAKOTA..........95.1.............xxx.............. ..87.6.............xxx

OHIO.......................92.8.............xxx... ..............78.9.............xxx

OKLAHOMA...............88.1.............xxx....... ..........75.4.............xxx


OREGON.................116.1.............xxx...... ..........136.8..............xxx

PENNSYLVANIA........102.4.............xxx......... ........99.3...............xxx

RHODE ISLAND.........119.0............xxx............... .121.4..............xxx

SOUTH CAROLINA.......97.5............xxx................ 90.3.................xxx

SOUTH DAKOTA.........91.3..............xxx.............. .85.8..............xxx

TENNESSEE..............88.9..............xxx...... .........77.2...............xxx

TEXAS.....................90.5..............xxx... ............78.9..............xxx

UTAH......................96.3..............xxx... .............90.1..............xxx

VERMONT...............119.9.............xxx....... ........140.1...............xxx

VIRGINIA..................99.3.............xxx.... ...........101.9.................xxx

WASHINGTON..........104.5..............xxx........ ......107.3................xxx

WEST VIRGINIA.........94.0...............xxx........... ....93.6...............xxx

WISCONSIN..............95.7...............xxx..... ..........87.1...............xxx

WYOMING...............100.4..............xxx...... ........102.8................xxx
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Old 05-12-2010, 06:15 AM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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I changed my mind about Vermont now. Cost of Living is up there still. Damn. Seems like the northern states have a higher cost of living. Not sure the relation with that is. Maybe the heating is a factor? But why wouldn't cooling be?
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Old 05-12-2010, 07:13 AM
 
Location: The brown house on the cul de sac
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Here's a cost of living breakdown by state. Would it suprise you CT is on the Top of list?
CL means Cost of Living. HC means housing Costs. They used 2nd quarter and 4th quarters of 2009.
CT's also ranks #1 in per capita income:
State Rankings--Statistical Abstract of the United States--Personal Income Per Capita

as well as in the top of median incomes in the country:
http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/income/income08/statemhi2_08.xls (broken link)
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Old 05-12-2010, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Connecticut
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Here's a cost of living breakdown by state. Would it suprise you CT is on the Top of list?
Another ranking!

Actually I see that Connecticut is No. 6 behind Alaska, Hawaii, Maryland, California and New Jersey. New York is right behind Connecticut but considering the low cost areas upstate kind of makes me think it is REALLY high in the New York City area. Cut out Buffalo and New York would probably shoot well beyond Connecticut too. Jay
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Old 05-12-2010, 04:37 PM
 
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CT's also ranks #1 in per capita income:
State Rankings--Statistical Abstract of the United States--Personal Income Per Capita

as well as in the top of median incomes in the country:
http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/income/income08/statemhi2_08.xls (broken link)
As far as the per capita income and median incomes that are listed above (not by County)...take out the income from Fairfield County and the "Gold Coast" and see what you have left. Not much I can bet you and not enough to justify the rediculous high housing prices.

For example, take Manchester's statistics right off of this site:

"Central Manchester, Connecticut
Estimated per capita income in 2008: $27,966
Estimated median household income in 2008: $52,453 (it was $43,977 in 2000)
Estimated median house or condo value in 2008: $230,745 (it was $112,500 in 2000) "

Can someone tell me how on (and I'll round up) $53,000 per year you can afford a $230,000 house? Or how housing costs can jump $118,245 while household income only rose $8,476? The numbers don't add up.
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Old 05-12-2010, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Connecticut
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Another ranking!

Actually I see that Connecticut is No. 6 behind Alaska, Hawaii, Maryland, California and New Jersey. New York is right behind Connecticut but considering the low cost areas upstate kind of makes me think it is REALLY high in the New York City area. Cut out Buffalo and New York would probably shoot well beyond Connecticut too. Jay
I grew up in the Albany capital region - the cost of living in some of those communities is not all that much lower than where I am now (New Haven area). Housing prices are somewhat lower but seem more similar to what you find in Hamden or North Haven. Gas prices are lower but not by that much. Grocery bills are similar. Cell phone, cable, etc. are all similar. Transportation/commuting costs may be higher as people from smaller communities often have to travel a long way to get to small city centers for jobs. People complain about high taxes up there as well. The difference between eastern/central CT and parts of upstate NY is not as huge as other posters make the difference between CT and the South out to be. Fairfield County is obviously excluded here.

As for Buffalo, I have no idea about the difference since it is six hours west of where I lived. Upstate is so huge that it's hard to lump all the different regions together, and it generally depends on your definition of 'upstate' - some people think that means Poughkeepsie, some of us think it means you'd better be well north of there.
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Old 05-12-2010, 05:09 PM
 
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Can someone tell me how on (and I'll round up) $53,000 per year you can afford a $230,000 house? Or how housing costs can jump $118,245 while household income only rose $8,476? The numbers don't add up.
Sure. Here's how it adds up. $53k per year income putting 20% down at around 5% rate and a purchase price of $230,000 is right around 1/3 of your income (roughly $1500). Even with a little debt you should be able to afford it, no ramens necessary. Now is it harder for people? Does that $230k buy a lot less than it used to? Yes. But CT isn't unique in that. There was a giant housing bubble. It did wonky things from coast to coast.
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Old 05-12-2010, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Can someone tell me how on (and I'll round up) $53,000 per year you can afford a $230,000 house? Or how housing costs can jump $118,245 while household income only rose $8,476? The numbers don't add up.
I think Buffett said this.... Does anyone realize that less than 100 yrs ago people were making $750 a year and the Model T cars were $500! So they were buying cars at less cost then their yearly income.

That $500 is equivalent to $12,000. So why are people buying $30,000-40,000-50,000 dollar cars/trucks now? because lending is easier. Being is debt is what people want to do.

Its sad when you really think about it.....

Oh...I didn't mention that houses were $3,500 then...
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Old 05-12-2010, 06:22 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Houses should be near $200,000. I been saying this for so long...

Average Prices - Today to 1913

Comparison of Average Prices of 2008 to 1913
Milk(gal.)$0.320~$4.001,250%
Bread (lb.)$0.061$1.372,246%
Eggs (doz.)$0.304$2.16710%
Average Wage$1,296.00$37,388.002,885%
Income Tax (Federal Only)1% ($12.96)18.5% ($6,922.5)53,414%
Disposable Income$1,283.04$30,465.502,374%
House$3,395.00$206,2006,074%
Car$490.00$27,8005,673%
Gas (gal.)$0.12~$1.501,250%

What Prices Should be in Proportion to 1913
Items2008 PriceAdjusted PriceDifference
Milk (gal.)~$4.00$7.8249% Less
Bread (lb.)$1.37$1.498% Less
Eggs (doz.)$2.16$7.4371% Less
Average Wage$37,388.00~$85,00056% Less
Disposable Income$31,385.27~$77,00059% Less
House$206,200$80,047157% More
Car$27,800$11,986132% More
Gas (gal.)~$1.50$2.9449% Less
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