U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Science and Technology > Consumer Electronics
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 11-19-2012, 05:53 PM
 
28,617 posts, read 40,594,929 times
Reputation: 37286

Advertisements

Not certain how important it is to you, but that Toshiba is 60Hz

Toshiba 50" Class LED 1080p 60Hz HDTV 50L2200U - Best Buy

No mention of clear motion rate on the Toshiba website.

Toshiba 50L2200U - 50" class 1080p 60Hz LED TV | LED TVs | Televisions | us.Toshiba.com

The Samsung site does say a clear motion rate of 120 on their set.

http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs/...5003FXZA-specs
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 11-19-2012, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Fairfax
2,880 posts, read 6,226,267 times
Reputation: 1231
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tek_Freek View Post
Not certain how important it is to you, but that Toshiba is 60Hz

Toshiba 50" Class LED 1080p 60Hz HDTV 50L2200U - Best Buy

No mention of clear motion rate on the Toshiba website.

Toshiba 50L2200U - 50" class 1080p 60Hz LED TV | LED TVs | Televisions | us.Toshiba.com

The Samsung site does say a clear motion rate of 120 on their set.

Specs - LED TV UN39EH5003F | Samsung TVs
I don't think clear motion rate matters to me as from what I've heard it's much less important than the refresh rate. Your link on the previous page backs this up.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-19-2012, 09:28 PM
 
28,617 posts, read 40,594,929 times
Reputation: 37286
Quote:
Originally Posted by destinedtodave View Post
I don't think clear motion rate matters to me as from what I've heard it's much less important than the refresh rate. Your link on the previous page backs this up.

That's my point. Both those TVs are 60Hz instead of 120Hz. You'll get to watch "fuzzy footballs" being passed along with any other "fast" moving items. Like I said before it only matters if it's important to you.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-19-2012, 10:26 PM
 
Location: Fairfax
2,880 posts, read 6,226,267 times
Reputation: 1231
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tek_Freek View Post
That's my point. Both those TVs are 60Hz instead of 120Hz. You'll get to watch "fuzzy footballs" being passed along with any other "fast" moving items. Like I said before it only matters if it's important to you.
I do watch sports and play Xbox at times, so I could benefit from 120Hz...but I really hesitate to increase my budget further (it's been quite a progression in this past few days). I'm realizing there will always be a reason to upgrade further

I think I'd be happy with either of those TVs I listed. I visited Best Buy/Target today, and was impressed by Samsung's LED screen quality. I haven't seen the Toshiba in person, but there's something to be said for pure size.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-20-2012, 11:24 AM
 
28,617 posts, read 40,594,929 times
Reputation: 37286
Quote:
Originally Posted by destinedtodave View Post
I do watch sports and play Xbox at times, so I could benefit from 120Hz...but I really hesitate to increase my budget further (it's been quite a progression in this past few days). I'm realizing there will always be a reason to upgrade further

I think I'd be happy with either of those TVs I listed. I visited Best Buy/Target today, and was impressed by Samsung's LED screen quality. I haven't seen the Toshiba in person, but there's something to be said for pure size.
I cannot argue with that statement. And staying in budget is a good idea.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-20-2012, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Fairfax
2,880 posts, read 6,226,267 times
Reputation: 1231
As I said, I'm really wary of going over 400, but Amazon has a Samsung 40 inch led Smart tv for 450. Is this as good of a deal as I think? Built in wifi would be really cool, I think.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-20-2012, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Fairfax
2,880 posts, read 6,226,267 times
Reputation: 1231
Let me ask a more specific question. Is there a higher quality associated with the smart tv?
Considering the smart tv is 450 and a similar but "dumb" tv is 400, is there any compelling reasons aside from the apps? I ask because I'm also getting Xbox Live, which can stream Netflix and others.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-20-2012, 01:51 PM
 
8,402 posts, read 20,663,341 times
Reputation: 6782
Quote:
Originally Posted by destinedtodave View Post
Let me ask a more specific question. Is there a higher quality associated with the smart tv?
Considering the smart tv is 450 and a similar but "dumb" tv is 400, is there any compelling reasons aside from the apps? I ask because I'm also getting Xbox Live, which can stream Netflix and others.
"Smart" is just a feature, like a front panel input, the ability to play external speakers, or a USB port. By itself it doesn't mean the TV is of a better quality than one without the Smart feature. BUT, just as with moving up to 1080P from 720P, when you upgrade to a Smart model, there may be other upgrades that come with that upper model which might improve the performance. Having the ethernet connection does open the door for all kinds of things going forward.

Apples to apples, though, Smart doesn't improve the quality of a TV.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-21-2012, 02:17 AM
 
3,040 posts, read 2,223,647 times
Reputation: 660
Quote:
Originally Posted by destinedtodave View Post
jean71, is it fine even for PC input and video games?
Sorry for the late response.

Yes its fine. As it was explained to me and backed by other sources, with small screens the pixels are not large enough to where they start losing quality. Once you go 40+, the pixels on a 720p would be pretty large and the lower amount of pixels means less pixels for color variation. Therefore a lower quality image. Compare a Blu-ray(1080p) image of a 40+ sized TV and 720p image on a screen 32 inches or less and you'll hardly if at all notice a difference. Assuming the comparison is done on equal quality TVs of course.

The whole 120hz vs 240+hz thing is a gimmick too. For the most part, the human eye cant distinguish the difference. I wouldn't go less than 120hz though. There is a notable difference between 60hz and 120hz.

Most screens now are coming out as 1080p and 240+hz though. Just a move of technology. So depending on how long you wait, that may just be what you end up with since its all that will be available.

Last edited by Jean71; 11-21-2012 at 02:30 AM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-21-2012, 02:22 AM
 
3,040 posts, read 2,223,647 times
Reputation: 660
Quote:
Originally Posted by destinedtodave View Post
Let me ask a more specific question. Is there a higher quality associated with the smart tv?
Considering the smart tv is 450 and a similar but "dumb" tv is 400, is there any compelling reasons aside from the apps? I ask because I'm also getting Xbox Live, which can stream Netflix and others.
"Smart" is just the ability to connect to the web or other devices. You can access the web, youtube, netflix, facebook...etc...
The firmware can also be updated since it can be "connected". New "smart" TVs are also coming out with built-in webcams for Skype and such.

It also means you can connect your TV to your phone or tablet or whatever else has DLNA. That allows you to easily share/stream pictures, music, videos...
DLNA is almost like Bluetooth but allows you to do a lot more like the music/videos..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Science and Technology > Consumer Electronics
Similar Threads
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:56 PM.

© 2005-2019, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top